Date   
Re: My presentation in this list

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hello, welcome to the add-ons mailing list.
Kind regards

2020-07-07 22:11 GMT+02:00, CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>:

Hello!
I am Carlos Martínez, the first person of Ecuador with the NVDA certified
expert.
Now, I subscribed to this list because I am interested in testing new
addons, and I can help with the experience of a user.
I consider that in these years, the developers created addons very useful.
I am not a developer, but I am a user with many experience in NVDA and
computing.
Regards.

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the
use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.



Re: add-on creation tip

Brian's Mail list account
 

I wondered if perhaps he was proposing that any links that are long could instantly be shortened by an add on but surely this is accomplished by a bookmark in any browser?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] add-on creation tip


Hi,

I’m curious to know: what does this have to do with this forum? Please answer us within the next 24 hours, otherwise this topic will be locked or removed.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of DJ Rafael Fernandes OFFICIAL
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:14 PM
To: nvda-addons@groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] add-on creation tip



Hello
I wanted to give an add-on tip for NVDA.
It is a complement that can cost Api the link shortener YOURLS. Many will ask the reason for this, I think if, as YOURLS is an own link shortener, we can install it in our own hosting, it would be very good to be able to shorten the links directly through NVDA.
I even fis a bot for telegram, with YOURLS, but it was in php. I don't know much about the NVDA add-ons api, but I think a complement like this would be possible.
Hugs!

Re: add-on creation tip

 

Hi,

I’m curious to know: what does this have to do with this forum? Please answer us within the next 24 hours, otherwise this topic will be locked or removed.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of DJ Rafael Fernandes OFFICIAL
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:14 PM
To: nvda-addons@groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] add-on creation tip

 

Hello
I wanted to give an add-on tip for NVDA.
It is a complement that can cost Api the link shortener YOURLS. Many will ask the reason for this, I think if, as YOURLS is an own link shortener, we can install it in our own hosting, it would be very good to be able to shorten the links directly through NVDA.
I even fis a bot for telegram, with YOURLS, but it was in php. I don't know much about the NVDA add-ons api, but I think a complement like this would be possible.
Hugs!

add-on creation tip

DJ Rafael Fernandes OFFICIAL
 

Hello
I wanted to give an add-on tip for NVDA.
It is a complement that can cost Api the link shortener YOURLS. Many will ask the reason for this, I think if, as YOURLS is an own link shortener, we can install it in our own hosting, it would be very good to be able to shorten the links directly through NVDA.
I even fis a bot for telegram, with YOURLS, but it was in php. I don't know much about the NVDA add-ons api, but I think a complement like this would be possible.
Hugs!

My presentation in this list

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello!
I am Carlos Martínez, the first person of Ecuador with the NVDA certified expert.
Now, I subscribed to this list because I am interested in testing new addons, and I can help with the experience of a user.
I consider that in these years, the developers created addons very useful.
I am not a developer, but I am a user with many experience in NVDA and computing.
Regards.

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.

Re: NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

James Scholes
 

* Deciding whether to count all downloads or just count one download
per unique IP address. For that one, keep in mind that if you count only one download per IP, the downloads of updates will get ignored if you ask for too wide a * time range.

Not to mention the fact that many people share a single IP, for several reasons including:

1. shared accommodation e.g. school or college campuses;
2. shared NAT, enforced by virtually all celular data networks and an increasing number of fixed line providers due to IP v4 shortage; and
3. increased VPN usage for privacy or geolocation circumvention.

Definitely not a trivial problem!

Regards,

James Scholes

On 07/07/2020 at 12:24 pm, Doug Lee wrote:
I consider download stats useful - in fact that is one of a few reasons I keep the add-ons I write on my own website, so I can get those stats myself for those add-ons.
However, it is a bit tricky to get accurate information. Problems I've had to address as best I can include
* Avoiding the counting of bots and crawlers along with "real" downloads.
* Deciding whether to count all downloads or just count one download per unique IP address. For that one, keep in mind that if you count only one download per IP, the downloads of updates will get ignored if you ask for too wide a * time range.
* Watching out for partial downloads, HTTP RANGE requests that pull down a file in chunks, etc.
And my favorite,
* Handling of unexpected HTTP status codes.
Unexpected status codes? Yes, I got a bunch of code 418 log entries. Googling that told me, much to my amusement, that HTTP status code 418 means "I am a teapot"! Further research finally indicated that my web host provider uses
that code when it blocks a retrieval that looks like it comes from a source that is trying to do something unfriendly to my website.
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:42:53PM +0530, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Andy,
I think that's a fair argument against collecting daily usage
statistics, and personally, I agree that daily usage stats for add-ons
might be a bit of an overkill. However, download counts can be
recorded for add-ons without any changes in NVDA and without
permissions from NVDA users. What are your thoughts on tracking
download stats?
Thanks.
On 7/7/20, Andy B. <sonfire11@...> wrote:
Hi,



NVDA already does this for itself. It doesn’t make any sense asking add-on
users to allow it for each add-on. From my experience, add-on users aren’t
interested much in providing stats like this because the overwhelming amount
of questions from add-ons asking the same question would be annoying at
best. Imagine having 10 add-ons installed. This means the user has to manage
11 requests for statistics. Not pleasant at all. I already get annoyed when
a developer asks once. Why would I make my users do it? You could allow NVDA
itself track this for you, but it is outside the scope of NVDA’s purpose.







Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:54 AM
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats



Dear NVDA add-ons community,



I would like to propose that we track the download and/or daily usage

statistics of NVDA add-ons. Neither of these is publicly displayed on

the community add-ons portal, and I am assuming that download stats

are not being recorded behind the scenes. This data could come in

handy in scenarios such as, but not limited to the following:

* Determining how popular a functionality is and using that

information when deciding or prioritizing which add-on's features

should be included in core.

* Potentially using those stats as a basis for ordering add-ons on the
website .

* Viewing that data for other forms of research, for an author to

prioritize development of a more downloaded add-on over lesser

downloaded ones, and even simply for the inherent value of stats.



I would appreciate thoughts and suggestions from add-on users and

developers on the (a) feasibility of obtaining this data, and (b) its

utility.



Thanks.



--

Best Regards

Bhavya Shah



Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







Re: NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

Andy B.
 

If its only download stats taken from the website, no problem. It gets tricky on the privacy issue when you start asking users if you can track their usage and favorite/most commonly used features.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:12 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

 

Hi Andy,

 

I think that's a fair argument against collecting daily usage

statistics, and personally, I agree that daily usage stats for add-ons

might be a bit of an overkill. However, download counts can be

recorded for add-ons without any changes in NVDA and without

permissions from NVDA users. What are your thoughts on tracking

download stats?

 

Thanks.

 

On 7/7/20, Andy B. <sonfire11@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> NVDA already does this for itself. It doesn’t make any sense asking add-on

> users to allow it for each add-on. From my experience, add-on users aren’t

> interested much in providing stats like this because the overwhelming amount

> of questions from add-ons asking the same question would be annoying at

> best. Imagine having 10 add-ons installed. This means the user has to manage

> 11 requests for statistics. Not pleasant at all. I already get annoyed when

> a developer asks once. Why would I make my users do it? You could allow NVDA

> itself track this for you, but it is outside the scope of NVDA’s purpose.

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Bhavya shah

> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:54 AM

> To: nvda-addons

> Subject: [nvda-addons] NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

> Dear NVDA add-ons community,

> I would like to propose that we track the download and/or daily usage

> statistics of NVDA add-ons. Neither of these is publicly displayed on

> the community add-ons portal, and I am assuming that download stats

> are not being recorded behind the scenes. This data could come in

> handy in scenarios such as, but not limited to the following:

> * Determining how popular a functionality is and using that

> information when deciding or prioritizing which add-on's features

> should be included in core.

> * Potentially using those stats as a basis for ordering add-ons on the

> website .

> * Viewing that data for other forms of research, for an author to

> prioritize development of a more downloaded add-on over lesser

> downloaded ones, and even simply for the inherent value of stats.

> I would appreciate thoughts and suggestions from add-on users and

> developers on the (a) feasibility of obtaining this data, and (b) its

> utility.

> Thanks.

> --

> Best Regards

> Bhavya Shah

> Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

> E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...

> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

>

 

 

--

Best Regards

Bhavya Shah

 

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

 

 

 

Re: NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

Doug Lee
 

I consider download stats useful - in fact that is one of a few reasons I keep the add-ons I write on my own website, so I can get those stats myself for those add-ons.

However, it is a bit tricky to get accurate information. Problems I've had to address as best I can include
* Avoiding the counting of bots and crawlers along with "real" downloads.
* Deciding whether to count all downloads or just count one download per unique IP address. For that one, keep in mind that if you count only one download per IP, the downloads of updates will get ignored if you ask for too wide a * time range.
* Watching out for partial downloads, HTTP RANGE requests that pull down a file in chunks, etc.
And my favorite,
* Handling of unexpected HTTP status codes.

Unexpected status codes? Yes, I got a bunch of code 418 log entries. Googling that told me, much to my amusement, that HTTP status code 418 means "I am a teapot"! Further research finally indicated that my web host provider uses
that code when it blocks a retrieval that looks like it comes from a source that is trying to do something unfriendly to my website.

On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:42:53PM +0530, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi Andy,

I think that's a fair argument against collecting daily usage
statistics, and personally, I agree that daily usage stats for add-ons
might be a bit of an overkill. However, download counts can be
recorded for add-ons without any changes in NVDA and without
permissions from NVDA users. What are your thoughts on tracking
download stats?

Thanks.

On 7/7/20, Andy B. <sonfire11@...> wrote:
Hi,



NVDA already does this for itself. It doesn’t make any sense asking add-on
users to allow it for each add-on. From my experience, add-on users aren’t
interested much in providing stats like this because the overwhelming amount
of questions from add-ons asking the same question would be annoying at
best. Imagine having 10 add-ons installed. This means the user has to manage
11 requests for statistics. Not pleasant at all. I already get annoyed when
a developer asks once. Why would I make my users do it? You could allow NVDA
itself track this for you, but it is outside the scope of NVDA’s purpose.







Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:54 AM
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats



Dear NVDA add-ons community,



I would like to propose that we track the download and/or daily usage

statistics of NVDA add-ons. Neither of these is publicly displayed on

the community add-ons portal, and I am assuming that download stats

are not being recorded behind the scenes. This data could come in

handy in scenarios such as, but not limited to the following:

* Determining how popular a functionality is and using that

information when deciding or prioritizing which add-on's features

should be included in core.

* Potentially using those stats as a basis for ordering add-ons on the
website .

* Viewing that data for other forms of research, for an author to

prioritize development of a more downloaded add-on over lesser

downloaded ones, and even simply for the inherent value of stats.



I would appreciate thoughts and suggestions from add-on users and

developers on the (a) feasibility of obtaining this data, and (b) its

utility.



Thanks.



--

Best Regards

Bhavya Shah



Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/








--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/



--
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Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"There are no guarantees. From a standpoint of fear, none are
strong enough. From a standpoint of love, none are necessary."
- from Emmanuel's Book II

Re: NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Andy,

I think that's a fair argument against collecting daily usage
statistics, and personally, I agree that daily usage stats for add-ons
might be a bit of an overkill. However, download counts can be
recorded for add-ons without any changes in NVDA and without
permissions from NVDA users. What are your thoughts on tracking
download stats?

Thanks.

On 7/7/20, Andy B. <sonfire11@...> wrote:
Hi,



NVDA already does this for itself. It doesn’t make any sense asking add-on
users to allow it for each add-on. From my experience, add-on users aren’t
interested much in providing stats like this because the overwhelming amount
of questions from add-ons asking the same question would be annoying at
best. Imagine having 10 add-ons installed. This means the user has to manage
11 requests for statistics. Not pleasant at all. I already get annoyed when
a developer asks once. Why would I make my users do it? You could allow NVDA
itself track this for you, but it is outside the scope of NVDA’s purpose.







Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:54 AM
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats



Dear NVDA add-ons community,



I would like to propose that we track the download and/or daily usage

statistics of NVDA add-ons. Neither of these is publicly displayed on

the community add-ons portal, and I am assuming that download stats

are not being recorded behind the scenes. This data could come in

handy in scenarios such as, but not limited to the following:

* Determining how popular a functionality is and using that

information when deciding or prioritizing which add-on's features

should be included in core.

* Potentially using those stats as a basis for ordering add-ons on the
website .

* Viewing that data for other forms of research, for an author to

prioritize development of a more downloaded add-on over lesser

downloaded ones, and even simply for the inherent value of stats.



I would appreciate thoughts and suggestions from add-on users and

developers on the (a) feasibility of obtaining this data, and (b) its

utility.



Thanks.



--

Best Regards

Bhavya Shah



Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

Re: NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

NVDA already does this for itself. It doesn’t make any sense asking add-on users to allow it for each add-on. From my experience, add-on users aren’t interested much in providing stats like this because the overwhelming amount of questions from add-ons asking the same question would be annoying at best. Imagine having 10 add-ons installed. This means the user has to manage 11 requests for statistics. Not pleasant at all. I already get annoyed when a developer asks once. Why would I make my users do it? You could allow NVDA itself track this for you, but it is outside the scope of NVDA’s purpose.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:54 AM
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

 

Dear NVDA add-ons community,

 

I would like to propose that we track the download and/or daily usage

statistics of NVDA add-ons. Neither of these is publicly displayed on

the community add-ons portal, and I am assuming that download stats

are not being recorded behind the scenes. This data could come in

handy in scenarios such as, but not limited to the following:

* Determining how popular a functionality is and using that

information when deciding or prioritizing which add-on's features

should be included in core.

* Potentially using those stats as a basis for ordering add-ons on the website .

* Viewing that data for other forms of research, for an author to

prioritize development of a more downloaded add-on over lesser

downloaded ones, and even simply for the inherent value of stats.

 

I would appreciate thoughts and suggestions from add-on users and

developers on the (a) feasibility of obtaining this data, and (b) its

utility.

 

Thanks.

 

--

Best Regards

Bhavya Shah

 

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

 

 

 

NVDA Add-on Download and Usage Stats

Bhavya shah
 

Dear NVDA add-ons community,

I would like to propose that we track the download and/or daily usage
statistics of NVDA add-ons. Neither of these is publicly displayed on
the community add-ons portal, and I am assuming that download stats
are not being recorded behind the scenes. This data could come in
handy in scenarios such as, but not limited to the following:
* Determining how popular a functionality is and using that
information when deciding or prioritizing which add-on's features
should be included in core.
* Potentially using those stats as a basis for ordering add-ons on the website .
* Viewing that data for other forms of research, for an author to
prioritize development of a more downloaded add-on over lesser
downloaded ones, and even simply for the inherent value of stats.

I would appreciate thoughts and suggestions from add-on users and
developers on the (a) feasibility of obtaining this data, and (b) its
utility.

Thanks.

--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

Re: Speech History Not Working

Bhavya shah
 

Dear Ján and James,

Thank you so much for the solution! I uninstalled Speech History,
manually removed the Speech History folder from the specified
directory path, restarted NVDA, re-installed the latest version of
Speech History, and now have the add-on working like a charm. This is
a genuinely useful piece of functionality that I am truly thankful
for.

Thanks.

On 6/22/20, James Scholes <james@...> wrote:
Please see https://github.com/jscholes/nvda-speech-history/issues/12 for
a solution.

Regards,

James Scholes

On 20/06/2020 at 4:48 pm, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear James,

I only just installed version 2020.2 of the add-on from the website.
Here is the likely issue: the status of the Speech History add-on as
shown in the Addons Manager dialog is "enabled after restart."
Furthermore, when I try to exit the Addons Manager, and this has begun
happening only after the installation of the Speech History addon
today, I am prompted to restart NVDA in order for some add-on changes
to take effect. However, restarting end number of times does not help.
Therefore, I think the problem lies with getting the add-on enabled in
the first place.

Thanks.

On 6/20/20, James Scholes <james@...> wrote:
Which version of the add-on are you running? Have you atempted to
completely uninstall it and then reinstall the very latest version?

Regards,

James Scholes

On 20/06/2020 at 8:51 am, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,

The Speech History add-on running on my NVDA version 2020.2 Beta 1
does not appear in the list of incompatible add-ons. However, it
doesn't work either. Nothing happens when I press F12, Shift+F11 or
Shift+F12. I was wondering if you could share a status update on this
add-on.

I would truly appreciate any assistance.

Thanks.




--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

Re: Using Kodi with NVDA?

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

cody is not working. what do I do?

On 7/6/20, Akash Kakkar <akash.misc07@...> wrote:
Hmm, can try

On 7/6/20, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Be my eyes on a smart phone, perhaps?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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in the display name field.
Newsgroup monitored: alt.comp.blind-users
----- Original Message -----
From: "Akash Kakkar" <akash.misc07@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?


oh. no luck then. :(

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
The only way is to install it through the kodi interface itself
So you will need sighted help



From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:48
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Oh, no beep is there. what should I do? any guidance?

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
If its enabling there should be two beeps to indicate its enabled when
kodi
is opened
If not then its probably not installed correctly


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:10
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Bro,
tried, but still not working

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
You only need to press f12 once to enable twice will disable


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 17:23
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Hi all,
I'm trying to use Kodi with NVDA but there's no speech at all and I
don't know that how to enable it.
I've installed Kodi screen reader addon from:
https://ruuk.github.io/service.xbmc.tts/
But still nothing is happening.
I read in archives that we have to press F12 twice in order to enable
accessibility but it also doesn't work.
Is there any other way such as a good addon or so??

























Re: Using Kodi with NVDA?

Akash Kakkar
 

Hmm, can try

On 7/6/20, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Be my eyes on a smart phone, perhaps?
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Akash Kakkar" <akash.misc07@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?


oh. no luck then. :(

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
The only way is to install it through the kodi interface itself
So you will need sighted help



From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:48
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Oh, no beep is there. what should I do? any guidance?

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
If its enabling there should be two beeps to indicate its enabled when
kodi
is opened
If not then its probably not installed correctly


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:10
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Bro,
tried, but still not working

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
You only need to press f12 once to enable twice will disable


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 17:23
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Hi all,
I'm trying to use Kodi with NVDA but there's no speech at all and I
don't know that how to enable it.
I've installed Kodi screen reader addon from:
https://ruuk.github.io/service.xbmc.tts/
But still nothing is happening.
I read in archives that we have to press F12 twice in order to enable
accessibility but it also doesn't work.
Is there any other way such as a good addon or so??























Re: FW: [nvda-devel] Introducing support for selective UIA event registration in NVDA Alpha snapshots

 

Hi all,
If you are using emoji panel on Windows 10, you'll notice that NVDA won't announce emoji panel category changes. I'm testing a potential fix, which will be made available via an update to Windows 10 App Essentials add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 11:18 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] FW: [nvda-devel] Introducing support for selective UIA event registration in NVDA Alpha snapshots



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-devel@groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io> On Behalf Of Leonard de Ruijter
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 11:11 PM
To: nvda-devel@groups.io; program-l@...
Subject: [nvda-devel] Introducing support for selective UIA event registration in NVDA Alpha snapshots

Dear all,


As many of you may know, people using Microsoft Visual Studio or other applications mainly accessed by UIAutomation can experience some major lag while using them with NVDA. In an attempt to fix this, I've spent some hours in coming up with an approach that majorly improves performance in these applications. Thanks to great feedback from NV Access and them merging it, it can now be enabled in most recent NVDA Alpha snapshots by enabling the "Enable selective registration for UI Automation events and property changes" option in NVDA's advanced settings.


Taking Visual Studio as an example, with this option enabled, I notice major performance improvements in the following areas:

* Nuget package manager

* Loading/moving through the error list

* Options like go to base, go to implementation, go to definition. etc.

Performance improvements aren't limited to that though. To go a bit technical, rather than requesting for all UIA events and processing/discarding them in NVDA's process, we're now mostly only requesting events for objects of interest. This means that many events fired on other controls than the focused control aren't simply discarded by NVDA, but rather not even seen by NVDA at all, thereby taking out the processing time needed to discard them.

As there might be some regressions introduced by this feature, it is marked advanced/experimental. As I hope it eventually will become the default, I'd really appreciate it if you could report any bugs or regressions perceived with this feature enabled on NVDA's Github.


Kind regards,

Leonard

FW: [nvda-devel] Introducing support for selective UIA event registration in NVDA Alpha snapshots

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-devel@groups.io <nvda-devel@groups.io> On Behalf Of Leonard de Ruijter
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 11:11 PM
To: nvda-devel@groups.io; program-l@...
Subject: [nvda-devel] Introducing support for selective UIA event registration in NVDA Alpha snapshots

Dear all,


As many of you may know, people using Microsoft Visual Studio or other applications mainly accessed by UIAutomation can experience some major lag while using them with NVDA. In an attempt to fix this, I've spent some hours in coming up with an approach that majorly improves performance in these applications. Thanks to great feedback from NV Access and them merging it, it can now be enabled in most recent NVDA Alpha snapshots by enabling the "Enable selective registration for UI Automation events and property changes" option in NVDA's advanced settings.


Taking Visual Studio as an example, with this option enabled, I notice major performance improvements in the following areas:

* Nuget package manager

* Loading/moving through the error list

* Options like go to base, go to implementation, go to definition. etc.

Performance improvements aren't limited to that though. To go a bit technical, rather than requesting for all UIA events and processing/discarding them in NVDA's process, we're now mostly only requesting events for objects of interest. This means that many events fired on other controls than the focused control aren't simply discarded by NVDA, but rather not even seen by NVDA at all, thereby taking out the processing time needed to discard them.

As there might be some regressions introduced by this feature, it is marked advanced/experimental. As I hope it eventually will become the default, I'd really appreciate it if you could report any bugs or regressions perceived with this feature enabled on NVDA's Github.


Kind regards,

Leonard

Re: Using Kodi with NVDA?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Akash Kakkar" <akash.misc07@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?


oh. no luck then. :(

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
The only way is to install it through the kodi interface itself
So you will need sighted help



From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:48
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Oh, no beep is there. what should I do? any guidance?

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
If its enabling there should be two beeps to indicate its enabled when
kodi
is opened
If not then its probably not installed correctly


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:10
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Bro,
tried, but still not working

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
You only need to press f12 once to enable twice will disable


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 17:23
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Hi all,
I'm trying to use Kodi with NVDA but there's no speech at all and I
don't know that how to enable it.
I've installed Kodi screen reader addon from:
https://ruuk.github.io/service.xbmc.tts/
But still nothing is happening.
I read in archives that we have to press F12 twice in order to enable
accessibility but it also doesn't work.
Is there any other way such as a good addon or so??



















Re: Using Kodi with NVDA?

Akash Kakkar
 

oh. no luck then. :(

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
The only way is to install it through the kodi interface itself
So you will need sighted help



From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:48
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Oh, no beep is there. what should I do? any guidance?

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
If its enabling there should be two beeps to indicate its enabled when
kodi
is opened
If not then its probably not installed correctly


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:10
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Bro,
tried, but still not working

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
You only need to press f12 once to enable twice will disable


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 17:23
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Hi all,
I'm trying to use Kodi with NVDA but there's no speech at all and I
don't know that how to enable it.
I've installed Kodi screen reader addon from:
https://ruuk.github.io/service.xbmc.tts/
But still nothing is happening.
I read in archives that we have to press F12 twice in order to enable
accessibility but it also doesn't work.
Is there any other way such as a good addon or so??



















Re: Using Kodi with NVDA?

Chris
 

The only way is to install it through the kodi interface itself

So you will need sighted help

 

 

 

From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:48
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

 

Oh, no beep is there. what should I do? any guidance?

 

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:

> If its enabling there should be two beeps to indicate its enabled when kodi

> is opened

> If not then its probably not installed correctly

> From: Akash Kakkar

> Sent: 05 July 2020 18:10

> To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

> Bro,

> tried, but still not working

> On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...>

> wrote:

>> You only need to press f12 once to enable twice will disable

>> 

>> 

>> From: Akash Kakkar

>> Sent: 05 July 2020 17:23

>> To: nvda-addons

>> Subject: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> I'm trying to use Kodi with NVDA but there's no speech at all and I

>> don't know that how to enable it.

>> I've installed Kodi screen reader addon from:

>> https://ruuk.github.io/service.xbmc.tts/

>> But still nothing is happening.

>> I read in archives that we have to press F12 twice in order to enable

>> accessibility but it also doesn't work.

>> Is there any other way such as a good addon or so??

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

Re: Using Kodi with NVDA?

Akash Kakkar
 

Oh, no beep is there. what should I do? any guidance?

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
If its enabling there should be two beeps to indicate its enabled when kodi
is opened
If not then its probably not installed correctly


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 18:10
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Bro,
tried, but still not working

On 7/5/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
wrote:
You only need to press f12 once to enable twice will disable


From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: 05 July 2020 17:23
To: nvda-addons
Subject: [nvda-addons] Using Kodi with NVDA?

Hi all,
I'm trying to use Kodi with NVDA but there's no speech at all and I
don't know that how to enable it.
I've installed Kodi screen reader addon from:
https://ruuk.github.io/service.xbmc.tts/
But still nothing is happening.
I read in archives that we have to press F12 twice in order to enable
accessibility but it also doesn't work.
Is there any other way such as a good addon or so??