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Re: Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

James Scholes
 

Joseph Lee wrote:
I will indeed forward important "lectures" from the devlearning group to various forums to stir discussion and to gather comments to be forwarded to that subgroup. Eventually those who pass through the course will be directed to join the development lists.
That wasn't my question. I asked whether, in order to join your development learning group, an individual would first need to join the high traffic general NVDA users list.
--
James Scholes
http://twitter.com/JamesScholes


Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Lino Morales
 

OK a dumb question here, but can you use the Braille input with a qwerty keyboard?

On 8/26/2017 1:15 PM, Noelia Ruiz wrote:
OK.
Cheers

El 26/08/2017 a las 19:12, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi,
I will add a note to the add-on entry on the website, telling people to disable this add-on if running NVDA 2017.3 and switch to Unicode braille for braille input.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:09 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

OK, though we should promote people to update to last versions. I confirm that in certain webpage of an organization for blind and people with other disabilities NVDA 2015 (I think that 2015.3) is already shared, and this isn't good for people.
Cheers

El 26/08/2017 a las 18:59, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi,
I think it should be kept on the website until at least end of this year in consideration for those who may have not updated to NVDA 2017.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
[mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:54 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers










Re: Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

 

Hi,
I will indeed forward important "lectures" from the devlearning group to various forums to stir discussion and to gather comments to be forwarded to that subgroup. Eventually those who pass through the course will be directed to join the development lists.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Scholes
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:38 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

Joseph Lee wrote:
You have to be a member of the NVDA group first before you can subscribe to the subgroup.
By "the NVDA group," do you mean that someone wishing to join your course also needs to join the high traffic NVDA users list? If so that really shouldn't be a prerequisite. I'm interested in following NVDA's development through the devel and addons list, and would even be willing to help out from time to time on the devlearning list if that would be welcome. But I've got no interest in wading through a mountain of user queries on a daily basis and I suspect I'm not the only one. You can set your preferences to nomail but then what's the point in joining in the first place?
--
James Scholes
http://twitter.com/JamesScholes


Re: Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

James Scholes
 

Joseph Lee wrote:
You have to be a member of the NVDA group first before you can subscribe to the subgroup.
By "the NVDA group," do you mean that someone wishing to join your course also needs to join the high traffic NVDA users list? If so that really shouldn't be a prerequisite. I'm interested in following NVDA's development through the devel and addons list, and would even be willing to help out from time to time on the devlearning list if that would be welcome. But I've got no interest in wading through a mountain of user queries on a daily basis and I suspect I'm not the only one. You can set your preferences to nomail but then what's the point in joining in the first place?
--
James Scholes
http://twitter.com/JamesScholes


Re: Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

 

Hi,
You have to be a member of the NVDA group first before you can subscribe to the subgroup.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Norberto Sousa
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 3:20 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

hi Joseph,

Please help me!
I've tried to subscribe the group through address you've sent, but I became the following message:
subscribe - Message not delivered Your message couldn't be delivered to Nvda+devlearning@groups.io because the remote server is misconfigured.

Please tell me which groups should I subscribe to, and which one should I subscribe first. I'm sorry, I think somebody has already written it in the list, but I cannot find it.

Thanks,
NSousa

On 8/26/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Nvda+devlearning@groups.io <mailto:Nvda+devlearning@groups.io> .

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
[mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of derek riemer
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:36 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Looking for external evaluators: FW:
[devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core
issues #quiz



Where is the course?



On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Joseph Lee
<joseph.lee22590@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

As you can see, I’ve started the course by handing out an entrance
quiz/survey. I’m looking for volunteer developers to help me evaluate
answers I’ll be getting from students during Labor Day weekend (first
weekend of September). Also, for questions 6 and 7, I’d like to let
evaluators give personal feedback to students either via GitHub or an
email once the course begins later in September. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: devlearning@nvda.groups.io <mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io <mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io>
] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:55 AM
To: devlearning@nvda.groups.io <mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons,
NVDA Core issues #quiz



Hi all,



As I announced a few days ago, we’ll have an entrance quiz/survey to
gauge how much we know and tailoring the course based on answers and
other data we get. Also, you may have noticed a new hashtag named
#quiz that’s reserved for this purpose – we’ll have quizzes about once
a month or two so we can keep track on how we’re doing and to prepare
to move onto the next adventure. Once a quiz is given, I’ll let you
take up to a week to think about and answer some questions, and you
don’t have to answer all questions posed.



For our first quiz (appropriately titled “entrance quiz/survey”),
there are six questions. In reality, there are seven questions, but
the seventh is reserved for those who wants to get into tutoring other
people and those who wants to get into NVDA Core development right
away. Of these questions, three deal with various aspects of Python,
two are on add-ons, and one is on NVDA Core issue. Depending on who
you are and what you want to learn, you may choose to answer none, or
choose to answer some or all six. This quiz will end on September 1,
2017 at 23:59 UTC, and I recommend that you pick one question from
both Python and add-ons categories and think about them throughout
next week. All answers should be sent to
nvda+devlearning+owner@groups.io
nvda+devlearning+<mailto:nvda+devlearning+owner@groups.io>
(or failing that, to me directly), and I’ll be asking one or two
outside developers to evaluate your answers with me. Be sure to test
your solutions before submitting them.



Questions:



Python:

1. Write a program that says “yes” or “no” to the question, “am I running
Python 3?” Hint: use a conditional and a function provided by one of
the standard library modules.
2. Write a function (that prints minimum and maximum of a list of random
numbers. You must not do this without functions, must ask users to
tell you how many items should be in this list and the range of
numbers (say, between
1 and 1000). Before printing min and max, print how many items are in
the resulting list (don’t attempt to do so right after you find out
how many items a user wants the list to contain). Hint: this question
tests your ability to research the right standard library features on
your own and come up with useful functions.
3. Design a set of GUI controls via classes. A class named “widget” should
be defined that contains ways of getting its name and control type, as
well as print the action to be taken when clicked by a mouse or enter
key is pressed. Then, design a checkbox, a list, a button, and a text
edit field that derives its power from the base widget class. Then in
your program, create an instance of each class, capture them inside a
list, then print their names and default actions. Hint: this question
tests your ability to come up with a design for solution to a problem, classes, and loops.



NVDA add-ons:

4. Write a global plugin that defines a command to announce pixel
coordinates of the focused control.
5. Create an app module for your favorite app that plays a tone when a
control with a role of your choosing gains focus.



NVDA Core:

6. Find any open issue on GitHub and comment as to how you will go about
solving it, complete with design and impact of your solution via
GitHub alone. A good issue to look at is 7515, which can be found at
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7515. It doesn’t have to be
this issue – it could be anything that is open (no pull requests yet,
no comments in there that suggests someone is already working on it,
which means 3208 and 7077 doesn’t qualify).



NVDA code reviews and for potential tutors:

7. After answering question 6, find anything that requires a code review and
review or comment on it. This can be any GitHub pull request, add-ons
that require code review and so on. Those who actually perform this
task and question 6 will be asked to tutor novice developers as they
learn Python and some basic NVDA internals.



Good luck.

Cheers,

Joseph




--

Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!

* University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
year undergraduate student.

* Accessibility enthusiast.

* Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.

* Open source enthusiast.

* Skier.

Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>






--
Norberto Inácio de Sousa
Consultor de acessibilidade Web e digital; Formador de acessibilidade, informática e línguas;
http://pt.linkedin.com/pub/norberto-sousa/4b/9ab/a12
Tlm. 962836137


Re: Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

Norberto Sousa
 

hi Joseph,

Please help me!
I've tried to subscribe the group through address you've sent, but I
became the following message:
subscribe - Message not delivered Your message couldn't be delivered
to Nvda+devlearning@groups.io because the remote server is
misconfigured.

Please tell me which groups should I subscribe to, and which one
should I subscribe first. I'm sorry, I think somebody has already
written it in the list, but I cannot find it.

Thanks,
NSousa

On 8/26/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Nvda+devlearning@groups.io <mailto:Nvda+devlearning@groups.io> .

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
[mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of derek riemer
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:36 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Looking for external evaluators: FW:
[devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues
#quiz



Where is the course?



On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

As you can see, I’ve started the course by handing out an entrance
quiz/survey. I’m looking for volunteer developers to help me evaluate
answers I’ll be getting from students during Labor Day weekend (first
weekend of September). Also, for questions 6 and 7, I’d like to let
evaluators give personal feedback to students either via GitHub or an email
once the course begins later in September. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: devlearning@nvda.groups.io <mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io <mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io> ] On
Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:55 AM
To: devlearning@nvda.groups.io <mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core
issues #quiz



Hi all,



As I announced a few days ago, we’ll have an entrance quiz/survey to gauge
how much we know and tailoring the course based on answers and other data we
get. Also, you may have noticed a new hashtag named #quiz that’s reserved
for this purpose – we’ll have quizzes about once a month or two so we can
keep track on how we’re doing and to prepare to move onto the next
adventure. Once a quiz is given, I’ll let you take up to a week to think
about and answer some questions, and you don’t have to answer all questions
posed.



For our first quiz (appropriately titled “entrance quiz/survey”), there are
six questions. In reality, there are seven questions, but the seventh is
reserved for those who wants to get into tutoring other people and those who
wants to get into NVDA Core development right away. Of these questions,
three deal with various aspects of Python, two are on add-ons, and one is on
NVDA Core issue. Depending on who you are and what you want to learn, you
may choose to answer none, or choose to answer some or all six. This quiz
will end on September 1, 2017 at 23:59 UTC, and I recommend that you pick
one question from both Python and add-ons categories and think about them
throughout next week. All answers should be sent to
nvda+devlearning+owner@groups.io <mailto:nvda+devlearning+owner@groups.io>
(or failing that, to me directly), and I’ll be asking one or two outside
developers to evaluate your answers with me. Be sure to test your solutions
before submitting them.



Questions:



Python:

1. Write a program that says “yes” or “no” to the question, “am I running
Python 3?” Hint: use a conditional and a function provided by one of the
standard library modules.
2. Write a function (that prints minimum and maximum of a list of random
numbers. You must not do this without functions, must ask users to tell you
how many items should be in this list and the range of numbers (say, between
1 and 1000). Before printing min and max, print how many items are in the
resulting list (don’t attempt to do so right after you find out how many
items a user wants the list to contain). Hint: this question tests your
ability to research the right standard library features on your own and come
up with useful functions.
3. Design a set of GUI controls via classes. A class named “widget” should
be defined that contains ways of getting its name and control type, as well
as print the action to be taken when clicked by a mouse or enter key is
pressed. Then, design a checkbox, a list, a button, and a text edit field
that derives its power from the base widget class. Then in your program,
create an instance of each class, capture them inside a list, then print
their names and default actions. Hint: this question tests your ability to
come up with a design for solution to a problem, classes, and loops.



NVDA add-ons:

4. Write a global plugin that defines a command to announce pixel
coordinates of the focused control.
5. Create an app module for your favorite app that plays a tone when a
control with a role of your choosing gains focus.



NVDA Core:

6. Find any open issue on GitHub and comment as to how you will go about
solving it, complete with design and impact of your solution via GitHub
alone. A good issue to look at is 7515, which can be found at
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7515. It doesn’t have to be this
issue – it could be anything that is open (no pull requests yet, no comments
in there that suggests someone is already working on it, which means 3208
and 7077 doesn’t qualify).



NVDA code reviews and for potential tutors:

7. After answering question 6, find anything that requires a code review and
review or comment on it. This can be any GitHub pull request, add-ons that
require code review and so on. Those who actually perform this task and
question 6 will be asked to tutor novice developers as they learn Python and
some basic NVDA internals.



Good luck.

Cheers,

Joseph




--

Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!

* University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
year undergraduate student.

* Accessibility enthusiast.

* Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.

* Open source enthusiast.

* Skier.

Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>





--
Norberto Inácio de Sousa
Consultor de acessibilidade Web e digital;
Formador de acessibilidade, informática e línguas;
http://pt.linkedin.com/pub/norberto-sousa/4b/9ab/a12
Tlm. 962836137


Re: NVDA Master ...342 Braille: Dot 7 not showing in Danish

 

Hi,

There is a ticket that was opened a few hours ago regarding this exact problem.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Gartmann
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:43 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] NVDA Master ...342 Braille: Dot 7 not showing in Danish

 

 

Hi,

 

When using the Danish 8-dot Grade 2 table for displaying, I am not seing dot 7 for indicating a capital letter.

 

When the cursor is on the word, however, dot 7 is shown. I have the word expanded to Computer Braille.

 

Anyone got a clue as to what is going on? Should I open a ticket or is something going on with the development that needs time to mature?

 

Best regards

 

Daniel

 

 


NVDA Master ...342 Braille: Dot 7 not showing in Danish

Daniel Gartmann <lists@...>
 

 

Hi,

 

When using the Danish 8-dot Grade 2 table for displaying, I am not seing dot 7 for indicating a capital letter.

 

When the cursor is on the word, however, dot 7 is shown. I have the word expanded to Computer Braille.

 

Anyone got a clue as to what is going on? Should I open a ticket or is something going on with the development that needs time to mature?

 

Best regards

 

Daniel

 

 


Re: MarkDown

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi Derek,

Thanks in advance.

Cheers since France.

Rémy


Le 26/08/2017 à 20:32, derek riemer a écrit :

Please hold off on translation syncranization until we hook it into the system.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:

Hi Robert,

Thanks for all,

You said:

- Keep the (normally two) spaces at the end of lines in readme.md,
otherwise the line break is cleared.


I do not know if I have done it, thank you very much for verifying this in the readme.md files of the two languages (french and spanish).

perhaps in readme.md in english into doc folder.

Note, this readme.md Is relative to the old version 1.0 of the addon.
I do not know if you have updated it?
Thanks for checking.
P.S:
Impossible to clone your repository since:
https://github.com/Robert-J-H/nvda-notepadPlusPlus/tree/web-preview

If you understand French and write it we could write to you privately to give you some guidelines regarding the local folders, I am not an expert either, and I think you understand better.
Cheers since France. Rémy
Le 25/08/2017 à 20:32, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
I'm thoroughly pleased that so many volunteer to translate Derek's add-on.
The source code is here:
https://github.com/Robert-J-H/nvda-notepadPlusPlus/tree/web-preview

I've prepared the different locale folders (although I'm not an
expert). Therefore, take it with a pinch of salt.
There might be further adjustments necessary for e.g. manifest.ini

The top-level readme.md should be fine for translation.
Once you've finished the translation (readme.md and nvda.po files) you
can send them as attachment to
robert_cc45@...

No subject, no message necessary, it will automatically land in my
drop box folder.
Notes:
- look out for typos that could have sneaked in.
- Keep the (normally two) spaces at the end of lines in readme.md,
otherwise the line break is cleared.

Thanks a lot for your work and engagement.

Cheers
Robert

On 25/08/2017, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:
He,


I want to translate de addon into portuguese. Where can I find the last
version?


Ângelo Abrantes


Às 11:38 de 25-08-2017, Robert Hänggi escreveu:
Hi Rémy
I've just added some text to the readme.md but I have to  check it's
appearance in git-hub first.
Stand by.

Cheers from Switzerland.
Robert

On 25/08/2017, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,

Here the addon for Notepad++ 1.1-dev, translated in french and spanish
with your latest changes made by you in attached file.

It is also included the translation of the readme.md documentation in
these two languages (only used in addon for Notepad++ 1.0 made by

Derek).

If you want you can do a new pull request  with my new translations to
him.
If there were new changes in the readme.md many thanks send me to be able
to
update the two translations, and so give you the addon  again.
Cheers since France.
Rémy

Le 24/08/2017 à 18:19, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
Hi Rémy
Very kind of you to translate "just for fun".
I've intentionally skipped changing the readme file.
It is after all Derek's addon and I wanted to avoid a possible writing
style change.
It may well be that Derek does not merge the pull request.
In this case, I'm going to make it an independent global plug-in and
will be highly appreciative if you could provide the translation.

Regards
Robert

On 23/08/2017, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,

You said:

The Help file isn't updated, therefore the shortcut for preview is
NVDA+h.
(once for browseable message, twice for default browser)


Could you please tell me, in which part should you introduce the
changes
in the readme.md file and what are they?

I translated by the fun the module 1.1-dev to French and Spanish with
the last messages modified by you.
(included last documentation for 1.0 version)
Thank you.
Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 22/08/2017 à 15:45, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
OK Michal
Once you've installed NotepadPlusPlus, you can try the attached
addon.
The Help file isn't updated, therefore the shortcut for preview is
NVDA+h.
(once for browseable message, twice for default browser)

Best
Robert

On 22/08/2017, Michal Rada <michal@...> wrote:
I was used notepad++ some time ago, but if you say, may be time to
refresh my knowledge :D Thanx

M


Dne 22.8.2017 v 11:52 Robert Hänggi napsal(a):
Hi Michal

Have a look here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintilla_(software)

We are mainly talking about NotepadPlusPlus because it is
recommended
in e.g. the addon developer's guide.

It hasn't to be MarkDown actually, HTML should work as well.

Robert

On 22/08/2017, Michal Rada <michal@...> wrote:
Please can you give me some recomendation which scintila editor
you
using and how it works with nvda?

M


Dne 19.8.2017 v 12:08 Robert Hänggi napsal(a):
On 19/08/2017, Tuukka Ojala <tuukka.ojala@...> wrote:
HI robert!
I love your idea of generating a markdown preview out of the
active
selection. It's more handy than any other workflow I know,.
However,
is
there a particular reason why you implemented this in the
Notepad++
app
module? I would much rather see this as a global plugin so this
could
be
used in any edit field.

Well, on my system, it is indeed a global plug-in.
But only Scintilla-based editors are currently supported.
I would have to add others incrementally since edit fields are
not
everywhere the same way implemented and handled.
Do you have some specific editors that you would like to be
recognized?

Best
Robert



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--

Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!

  • University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th year undergraduate student.
  • Accessibility enthusiast.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Skier.

Personal website


Re: MarkDown

derek riemer
 

Please hold off on translation syncranization until we hook it into the system.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:

Hi Robert,

Thanks for all,

You said:

- Keep the (normally two) spaces at the end of lines in readme.md,
otherwise the line break is cleared.


I do not know if I have done it, thank you very much for verifying this in the readme.md files of the two languages (french and spanish).

perhaps in readme.md in english into doc folder.

Note, this readme.md Is relative to the old version 1.0 of the addon.
I do not know if you have updated it?
Thanks for checking.
P.S:
Impossible to clone your repository since:
https://github.com/Robert-J-H/nvda-notepadPlusPlus/tree/web-preview

If you understand French and write it we could write to you privately to give you some guidelines regarding the local folders, I am not an expert either, and I think you understand better.

Cheers since France.
Rémy

Le 25/08/2017 à 20:32, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
I'm thoroughly pleased that so many volunteer to translate Derek's add-on.
The source code is here:
https://github.com/Robert-J-H/nvda-notepadPlusPlus/tree/web-preview

I've prepared the different locale folders (although I'm not an
expert). Therefore, take it with a pinch of salt.
There might be further adjustments necessary for e.g. manifest.ini

The top-level readme.md should be fine for translation.
Once you've finished the translation (readme.md and nvda.po files) you
can send them as attachment to
robert_cc45@...

No subject, no message necessary, it will automatically land in my
drop box folder.
Notes:
- look out for typos that could have sneaked in.
- Keep the (normally two) spaces at the end of lines in readme.md,
otherwise the line break is cleared.

Thanks a lot for your work and engagement.

Cheers
Robert

On 25/08/2017, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:
He,


I want to translate de addon into portuguese. Where can I find the last
version?


Ângelo Abrantes


Às 11:38 de 25-08-2017, Robert Hänggi escreveu:
Hi Rémy
I've just added some text to the readme.md but I have to  check it's
appearance in git-hub first.
Stand by.

Cheers from Switzerland.
Robert

On 25/08/2017, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,

Here the addon for Notepad++ 1.1-dev, translated in french and spanish
with your latest changes made by you in attached file.

It is also included the translation of the readme.md documentation in
these two languages (only used in addon for Notepad++ 1.0 made by

Derek).

If you want you can do a new pull request  with my new translations to
him.
If there were new changes in the readme.md many thanks send me to be able
to
update the two translations, and so give you the addon  again.
Cheers since France.
Rémy

Le 24/08/2017 à 18:19, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
Hi Rémy
Very kind of you to translate "just for fun".
I've intentionally skipped changing the readme file.
It is after all Derek's addon and I wanted to avoid a possible writing
style change.
It may well be that Derek does not merge the pull request.
In this case, I'm going to make it an independent global plug-in and
will be highly appreciative if you could provide the translation.

Regards
Robert

On 23/08/2017, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,

You said:

The Help file isn't updated, therefore the shortcut for preview is
NVDA+h.
(once for browseable message, twice for default browser)


Could you please tell me, in which part should you introduce the
changes
in the readme.md file and what are they?

I translated by the fun the module 1.1-dev to French and Spanish with
the last messages modified by you.
(included last documentation for 1.0 version)
Thank you.
Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 22/08/2017 à 15:45, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
OK Michal
Once you've installed NotepadPlusPlus, you can try the attached
addon.
The Help file isn't updated, therefore the shortcut for preview is
NVDA+h.
(once for browseable message, twice for default browser)

Best
Robert

On 22/08/2017, Michal Rada <michal@...> wrote:
I was used notepad++ some time ago, but if you say, may be time to
refresh my knowledge :D Thanx

M


Dne 22.8.2017 v 11:52 Robert Hänggi napsal(a):
Hi Michal

Have a look here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintilla_(software)

We are mainly talking about NotepadPlusPlus because it is
recommended
in e.g. the addon developer's guide.

It hasn't to be MarkDown actually, HTML should work as well.

Robert

On 22/08/2017, Michal Rada <michal@...> wrote:
Please can you give me some recomendation which scintila editor
you
using and how it works with nvda?

M


Dne 19.8.2017 v 12:08 Robert Hänggi napsal(a):
On 19/08/2017, Tuukka Ojala <tuukka.ojala@...> wrote:
HI robert!
I love your idea of generating a markdown preview out of the
active
selection. It's more handy than any other workflow I know,.
However,
is
there a particular reason why you implemented this in the
Notepad++
app
module? I would much rather see this as a global plugin so this
could
be
used in any edit field.

Well, on my system, it is indeed a global plug-in.
But only Scintilla-based editors are currently supported.
I would have to add others incrementally since edit fields are
not
everywhere the same way implemented and handled.
Do you have some specific editors that you would like to be
recognized?

Best
Robert




                        

                    


            

          

        
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Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Timothy
 

Yes, but if you do not have n-key rollover, then various combinations of keys may not work when pressed at the same time. Jamie tried to account for that by allowing the row above for input also, but depending on your keyboard, it may still not work for every combination or number of keys pressed. All three options -- using an actual braille keyboard, using the PC Keyboard Braille Input add-on, or using the Unicode Braille Input add-on -- are all viable solutions, and one may be preferred over the other depending on the situation or scenario.

Timothy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Noelia Ruiz" <nrm1977@gmail.com>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on


Hi, I didn't realise about the use case you are mentioning, since I
assumed that English keyboard is present on Windows and can be used with
PC Keyboard Braille Input.
Cheers

El 26/08/2017 a las 19:56, Timothy via Groups.Io escribió:
I believe that the add-on should be here to stay, as both input methods can serve two different populations. For example, if you have a Braille Display with a braille keyboard, then the Unicode braille Input table can serve you well. Otherwise, you'd have to use something like PC Keyboard Braille Input, which may not work with all keyboards because of a lack of n-key rollover. If that is the case, using Unicode Braille Input may be more efficient.

There may be other use cases for either of the two input methods, but I don't see why the add-on should be considered redundant or deprecated.

Timothy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Noelia Ruiz" <nrm1977@gmail.com>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:54 PM
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on


Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode
table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical
purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers







Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hi, I didn't realise about the use case you are mentioning, since I assumed that English keyboard is present on Windows and can be used with PC Keyboard Braille Input.
Cheers

El 26/08/2017 a las 19:56, Timothy via Groups.Io escribió:
I believe that the add-on should be here to stay, as both input methods can serve two different populations. For example, if you have a Braille Display with a braille keyboard, then the Unicode braille Input table can serve you well. Otherwise, you'd have to use something like PC Keyboard Braille Input, which may not work with all keyboards because of a lack of n-key rollover. If that is the case, using Unicode Braille Input may be more efficient.
There may be other use cases for either of the two input methods, but I don't see why the add-on should be considered redundant or deprecated.
Timothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noelia Ruiz" <nrm1977@gmail.com>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:54 PM
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode
table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical
purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers




Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Timothy
 

I believe that the add-on should be here to stay, as both input methods can serve two different populations. For example, if you have a Braille Display with a braille keyboard, then the Unicode braille Input table can serve you well. Otherwise, you'd have to use something like PC Keyboard Braille Input, which may not work with all keyboards because of a lack of n-key rollover. If that is the case, using Unicode Braille Input may be more efficient.

There may be other use cases for either of the two input methods, but I don't see why the add-on should be considered redundant or deprecated.

Timothy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Noelia Ruiz" <nrm1977@gmail.com>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:54 PM
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on


Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode
table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical
purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers




Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Noelia Ruiz
 

OK.
Cheers

El 26/08/2017 a las 19:12, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi,
I will add a note to the add-on entry on the website, telling people to disable this add-on if running NVDA 2017.3 and switch to Unicode braille for braille input.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:09 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on
OK, though we should promote people to update to last versions. I confirm that in certain webpage of an organization for blind and people with other disabilities NVDA 2015 (I think that 2015.3) is already shared, and this isn't good for people.
Cheers
El 26/08/2017 a las 18:59, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi,
I think it should be kept on the website until at least end of this year in consideration for those who may have not updated to NVDA 2017.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
[mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:54 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers






Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

 

Hi,
I will add a note to the add-on entry on the website, telling people to disable this add-on if running NVDA 2017.3 and switch to Unicode braille for braille input.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:09 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

OK, though we should promote people to update to last versions. I confirm that in certain webpage of an organization for blind and people with other disabilities NVDA 2015 (I think that 2015.3) is already shared, and this isn't good for people.
Cheers

El 26/08/2017 a las 18:59, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi,
I think it should be kept on the website until at least end of this year in consideration for those who may have not updated to NVDA 2017.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
[mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:54 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers






Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Noelia Ruiz
 

OK, though we should promote people to update to last versions. I confirm that in certain webpage of an organization for blind and people with other disabilities NVDA 2015 (I think that 2015.3) is already shared, and this isn't good for people.
Cheers

El 26/08/2017 a las 18:59, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi,
I think it should be kept on the website until at least end of this year in consideration for those who may have not updated to NVDA 2017.3.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:54 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on
Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers


Re: UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

 

Hi,
I think it should be kept on the website until at least end of this year in consideration for those who may have not updated to NVDA 2017.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:54 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers


UnicodeBrailleInput add/on

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hi, should this add/on removed from the website_ Now Braille unicode table can be selected from Braille settings.
If so, I-d like mantain somewhere a copy of the repo for historical purposes, aknowledging the work of the add/on authors, Mesar and Patrick.
Cheers


Re: Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

 

Hi,

Nvda+devlearning@groups.io.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io [mailto:nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io] On Behalf Of derek riemer
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:36 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Looking for external evaluators: FW: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

 

Where is the course?

 

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

As you can see, I’ve started the course by handing out an entrance quiz/survey. I’m looking for volunteer developers to help me evaluate answers I’ll be getting from students during Labor Day weekend (first weekend of September). Also, for questions 6 and 7, I’d like to let evaluators give personal feedback to students either via GitHub or an email once the course begins later in September. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: devlearning@nvda.groups.io [mailto:devlearning@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:55 AM
To: devlearning@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [devlearning] Entrance quiz/survey: Python, NVDA add-ons, NVDA Core issues #quiz

 

Hi all,

 

As I announced a few days ago, we’ll have an entrance quiz/survey to gauge how much we know and tailoring the course based on answers and other data we get. Also, you may have noticed a new hashtag named #quiz that’s reserved for this purpose – we’ll have quizzes about once a month or two so we can keep track on how we’re doing and to prepare to move onto the next adventure. Once a quiz is given, I’ll let you take up to a week to think about and answer some questions, and you don’t have to answer all questions posed.

 

For our first quiz (appropriately titled “entrance quiz/survey”), there are six questions. In reality, there are seven questions, but the seventh is reserved for those who wants to get into tutoring other people and those who wants to get into NVDA Core development right away. Of these questions, three deal with various aspects of Python, two are on add-ons, and one is on NVDA Core issue. Depending on who you are and what you want to learn, you may choose to answer none, or choose to answer some or all six. This quiz will end on September 1, 2017 at 23:59 UTC, and I recommend that you pick one question from both Python and add-ons categories and think about them throughout next week. All answers should be sent to nvda+devlearning+owner@groups.io (or failing that, to me directly), and I’ll be asking one or two outside developers to evaluate your answers with me. Be sure to test your solutions before submitting them.

 

Questions:

 

Python:

  1. Write a program that says “yes” or “no” to the question, “am I running Python 3?” Hint: use a conditional and a function provided by one of the standard library modules.
  2. Write a function (that prints minimum and maximum of a list of random numbers. You must not do this without functions, must ask users to tell you how many items should be in this list and the range of numbers (say, between 1 and 1000). Before printing min and max, print how many items are in the resulting list (don’t attempt to do so right after you find out how many items a user wants the list to contain). Hint: this question tests your ability to research the right standard library features on your own and come up with useful functions.
  3. Design a set of GUI controls via classes. A class named “widget” should be defined that contains ways of getting its name and control type, as well as print the action to be taken when clicked by a mouse or enter key is pressed. Then, design a checkbox, a list, a button, and a text edit field that derives its power from the base widget class. Then in your program, create an instance of each class, capture them inside a list, then print their names and default actions. Hint: this question tests your ability to come up with a design for solution to a problem, classes, and loops.

 

NVDA add-ons:

  1. Write a global plugin that defines a command to announce pixel coordinates of the focused control.
  2. Create an app module for your favorite app that plays a tone when a control with a role of your choosing gains focus.

 

NVDA Core:

  1. Find any open issue on GitHub and comment as to how you will go about solving it, complete with design and impact of your solution via GitHub alone. A good issue to look at is 7515, which can be found at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7515. It doesn’t have to be this issue – it could be anything that is open (no pull requests yet, no comments in there that suggests someone is already working on it, which means 3208 and 7077 doesn’t qualify).

 

NVDA code reviews and for potential tutors:

  1. After answering question 6, find anything that requires a code review and review or comment on it. This can be any GitHub pull request, add-ons that require code review and so on. Those who actually perform this task and question 6 will be asked to tutor novice developers as they learn Python and some basic NVDA internals.

 

Good luck.

Cheers,

Joseph




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·         University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th year undergraduate student.

·         Accessibility enthusiast.

·         Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.

·         Open source enthusiast.

·         Skier.

Personal website

 


Re: MarkDown

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi Robert,

Thanks for all,

You said:

- Keep the (normally two) spaces at the end of lines in readme.md,
otherwise the line break is cleared.


I do not know if I have done it, thank you very much for verifying this in the readme.md files of the two languages (french and spanish).

perhaps in readme.md in english into doc folder.

Note, this readme.md Is relative to the old version 1.0 of the addon.
I do not know if you have updated it?
Thanks for checking.
P.S:
Impossible to clone your repository since:
https://github.com/Robert-J-H/nvda-notepadPlusPlus/tree/web-preview

If you understand French and write it we could write to you privately to give you some guidelines regarding the local folders, I am not an expert either, and I think you understand better.

Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 25/08/2017 à 20:32, Robert Hänggi a écrit :

I'm thoroughly pleased that so many volunteer to translate Derek's add-on.
The source code is here:
https://github.com/Robert-J-H/nvda-notepadPlusPlus/tree/web-preview

I've prepared the different locale folders (although I'm not an
expert). Therefore, take it with a pinch of salt.
There might be further adjustments necessary for e.g. manifest.ini

The top-level readme.md should be fine for translation.
Once you've finished the translation (readme.md and nvda.po files) you
can send them as attachment to
robert_cc45@...

No subject, no message necessary, it will automatically land in my
drop box folder.
Notes:
- look out for typos that could have sneaked in.
- Keep the (normally two) spaces at the end of lines in readme.md,
otherwise the line break is cleared.

Thanks a lot for your work and engagement.

Cheers
Robert

On 25/08/2017, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:
He,


I want to translate de addon into portuguese. Where can I find the last
version?


Ângelo Abrantes


Às 11:38 de 25-08-2017, Robert Hänggi escreveu:
Hi Rémy
I've just added some text to the readme.md but I have to  check it's
appearance in git-hub first.
Stand by.

Cheers from Switzerland.
Robert

On 25/08/2017, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,

Here the addon for Notepad++ 1.1-dev, translated in french and spanish
with your latest changes made by you in attached file.

It is also included the translation of the readme.md documentation in
these two languages (only used in addon for Notepad++ 1.0 made by

Derek).

If you want you can do a new pull request  with my new translations to
him.
If there were new changes in the readme.md many thanks send me to be able
to
update the two translations, and so give you the addon  again.
Cheers since France.
Rémy

Le 24/08/2017 à 18:19, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
Hi Rémy
Very kind of you to translate "just for fun".
I've intentionally skipped changing the readme file.
It is after all Derek's addon and I wanted to avoid a possible writing
style change.
It may well be that Derek does not merge the pull request.
In this case, I'm going to make it an independent global plug-in and
will be highly appreciative if you could provide the translation.

Regards
Robert

On 23/08/2017, Rémy Ruiz <remyruiz@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,

You said:

The Help file isn't updated, therefore the shortcut for preview is
NVDA+h.
(once for browseable message, twice for default browser)


Could you please tell me, in which part should you introduce the
changes
in the readme.md file and what are they?

I translated by the fun the module 1.1-dev to French and Spanish with
the last messages modified by you.
(included last documentation for 1.0 version)
Thank you.
Cheers since France.
Rémy
Le 22/08/2017 à 15:45, Robert Hänggi a écrit :
OK Michal
Once you've installed NotepadPlusPlus, you can try the attached
addon.
The Help file isn't updated, therefore the shortcut for preview is
NVDA+h.
(once for browseable message, twice for default browser)

Best
Robert

On 22/08/2017, Michal Rada <michal@...> wrote:
I was used notepad++ some time ago, but if you say, may be time to
refresh my knowledge :D Thanx

M


Dne 22.8.2017 v 11:52 Robert Hänggi napsal(a):
Hi Michal

Have a look here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintilla_(software)

We are mainly talking about NotepadPlusPlus because it is
recommended
in e.g. the addon developer's guide.

It hasn't to be MarkDown actually, HTML should work as well.

Robert

On 22/08/2017, Michal Rada <michal@...> wrote:
Please can you give me some recomendation which scintila editor
you
using and how it works with nvda?

M


Dne 19.8.2017 v 12:08 Robert Hänggi napsal(a):
On 19/08/2017, Tuukka Ojala <tuukka.ojala@...> wrote:
HI robert!
I love your idea of generating a markdown preview out of the
active
selection. It's more handy than any other workflow I know,.
However,
is
there a particular reason why you implemented this in the
Notepad++
app
module? I would much rather see this as a global plugin so this
could
be
used in any edit field.

Well, on my system, it is indeed a global plug-in.
But only Scintilla-based editors are currently supported.
I would have to add others incrementally since edit fields are
not
everywhere the same way implemented and handled.
Do you have some specific editors that you would like to be
recognized?

Best
Robert




                        





          


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