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Re: delayed phonetic character descriptions, integration on the NVDA's core.

William
 

Joseph, noted.


Joseph Lee 於 13/5/2022 09:13 寫道:

Hi,
The answer: no as 2022.1 RC is out now. Any pull requests accepted and merged will go to master branch (2022.2)
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 6:03 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] delayed phonetic character descriptions, integration on the NVDA's core.

Hello,

For nvda 2022.1, will this feature be implemented or I still have to use the latest beta version?

Thanks.



DaVid 於 2/5/2022 12:33 寫道:
Hi there. For those asking for the build with the delayed descriptions
implemented on it, appveyor deletes the builds generated after a
month.
Try with the new commit, that just contains linting fixes. Consider
that your antovirus may want to delete this file, because the
installer is unsigned.

Installer build:
https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/bkjt0rnrc065vvno/artifacts/outpu
t%2Fnvda_snapshot_pr13550-25331%2C7afa5930.exe

Pull request link:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/13550

Please comment on my pr if you can, so I can be notified about your
contributions and reports.

This feature is similar to the add-on enhanced phonetic reading, that
you can found here:
https://github.com/davidacm/EnhancedPhoneticReading

Regards,
David CM.











Re: delayed phonetic character descriptions, integration on the NVDA's core.

 

Hi,
The answer: no as 2022.1 RC is out now. Any pull requests accepted and merged will go to master branch (2022.2)
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 6:03 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] delayed phonetic character descriptions, integration on the NVDA's core.

Hello,

For nvda 2022.1, will this feature be implemented or I still have to use the latest beta version?

Thanks.



DaVid 於 2/5/2022 12:33 寫道:
Hi there. For those asking for the build with the delayed descriptions
implemented on it, appveyor deletes the builds generated after a
month.
Try with the new commit, that just contains linting fixes. Consider
that your antovirus may want to delete this file, because the
installer is unsigned.

Installer build:
https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/bkjt0rnrc065vvno/artifacts/outpu
t%2Fnvda_snapshot_pr13550-25331%2C7afa5930.exe

Pull request link:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/13550

Please comment on my pr if you can, so I can be notified about your
contributions and reports.

This feature is similar to the add-on enhanced phonetic reading, that
you can found here:
https://github.com/davidacm/EnhancedPhoneticReading

Regards,
David CM.





Re: delayed phonetic character descriptions, integration on the NVDA's core.

William
 

Hello,

For nvda 2022.1, will this feature be implemented or I still have to use the latest beta version?

Thanks.



DaVid 於 2/5/2022 12:33 寫道:

Hi there. For those asking for the build with the delayed descriptions
implemented on it, appveyor deletes the builds generated after a
month.
Try with the new commit, that just contains linting fixes. Consider
that your antovirus may want to delete this file, because the
installer is unsigned.

Installer build:
https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/bkjt0rnrc065vvno/artifacts/output%2Fnvda_snapshot_pr13550-25331%2C7afa5930.exe

Pull request link:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/13550

Please comment on my pr if you can, so I can be notified about your
contributions and reports.

This feature is similar to the add-on enhanced phonetic reading, that
you can found here:
https://github.com/davidacm/EnhancedPhoneticReading

Regards,
David CM.




Re: NVDA 2022.1 rc1 now available

Noelia Ruiz
 

Thanks. I"ll provide stable version of all my addons compatible with NVDA 2022 in addonFiles repo, and documentation on the website, so that reviewers can merge pull requests and they can be available when the final version of NVDA is released. I expect that my work for add-ons maintained by me is finished this weekend.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 12 may 2022, a las 9:41, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> escribió:


Hi everyone,

NVDA 2022.1 Release Candidate 1 is now available for testing. We encourage all users to download this RC and provide feedback. Unless any critical bugs are found, this will be identical to the final 2022.1 release. Full details & download at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-1rc1/

This release includes major improvements to UIA support with MS Office. For Microsoft Office 16.0.15000 and higher on Windows 11, NVDA will use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word documents by default. This provides a significant performance improvement over the old Object model access.

There are improvements to braille display drivers including Seika Notetaker, Papenmeier and HID Braille. There are also various Windows 11 bug fixes, for apps such as Calculator, Console, Terminal, Mail and Emoji Panel.

eSpeak-NG and LibLouis have been updated, adding new Japanese, German and Catalan tables.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


NVDA 2022.1 rc1 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2022.1 Release Candidate 1 is now available for testing. We encourage all users to download this RC and provide feedback. Unless any critical bugs are found, this will be identical to the final 2022.1 release. Full details & download at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-1rc1/

This release includes major improvements to UIA support with MS Office. For Microsoft Office 16.0.15000 and higher on Windows 11, NVDA will use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word documents by default. This provides a significant performance improvement over the old Object model access.

There are improvements to braille display drivers including Seika Notetaker, Papenmeier and HID Braille. There are also various Windows 11 bug fixes, for apps such as Calculator, Console, Terminal, Mail and Emoji Panel.

eSpeak-NG and LibLouis have been updated, adding new Japanese, German and Catalan tables.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Brian's Mail list account
 

Are you sure? That is peculiar, as it says I'm running the latest version. I have reinstall the previous on and installed the newer on in the alpha branch now.

Scratching head.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Hello!


Some comments...


Brian wrote:

I think the actual thing that has been cut, copied pasted etc, is not that relevant in the main, but the actual indication that something has happened is.


In the current stable version user can configure if he wants to hear what was copied, cut or pasted or hear only copy, cut or paste...



Brian wrote:

It also sometimes gets confused if you have used the keypad modes to cut stuff to the clipboard, I get random things like no change or nothing spoken at times.


Sorry, but the current stable version do not have any more the check of clipboard content, so the message "No change" is no more present in the add-on...

This check was removed because it was inconsistent...


Rui Fontes






Re: Which add-ons are you using on secure screens (logon, UAC)

Brian's Mail list account
 

I find secure screens irritating in my usage case. Often when nvda gives that ding noise, the ok etc are not in focus,but behind the screen.
I cannot think of a use for any add on, but there are times when the computer misbehaves that it can be handy to look at a screen and you might not actually know what sort of screen it is.
Brian

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From: "Cyrille via groups.io" <cyrille.bougot2@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 1:25 PM
Subject: [nvda-addons] Which add-ons are you using on secure screens (logon, UAC)


Hello all

If you are using some add-ons on secure screens (Windows logon screen, UAC prompt, etc.), could you please describe your use case here ( https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13686 ) ?
Indeed, NVAccess is seeking feedback from the community for such usages.
So please go there and comment if you have a use case that has not yet been described.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Which add-ons are you using on secure screens (logon, UAC)

Cyrille
 

Hello all

If you are using some add-ons on secure screens (Windows logon screen, UAC prompt, etc.), could you please describe your use case here?
Indeed, NVAccess is seeking feedback from the community for such usages.
So please go there and comment if you have a use case that has not yet  been described.

Cheers,

Cyrille


Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


I assume you have got this log with the new version I sent...

It worked alright, but with an error I can't understand...


Sometimes, going to some windows, like the new NotePad of Windows 11 or a Outlook message composition window, the first press of Control+V do not announce anything, but if you press again, it announces correctly...


Rui Fontes


Às 08:02 de 10/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:

OK here is the whole log of the strange behaviour. Not it has a lot more junk in it, particularly at the end.
INFO - __main__ (07:43:44.471) - MainThread (5784):
Starting NVDA version 2021.3.5
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.491) - MainThread (5784):
Config dir: C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:43:44.491) - MainThread (5784):
Loading config: C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:43:44.501) - MainThread (5784):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{'schemaVersion': '4', 'upgrade': {}, 'update': {'autoCheck': 'True', 'startupNotification': 'True', 'allowUsageStats': 'True', 'askedAllowUsageStats': 'True'}, 'general': {'showWelcomeDialogAtStartup': 'False', 'language': 'Windows', 'saveConfigurationOnExit': 'True', 'askToExit': 'True', 'playStartAndExitSounds': 'True', 'loggingLevel': 'DEBUG'}, 'speech': {'synth': 'espeak', 'outputDevice': 'Speakers (3- BEHRINGER USB WDM ', 'symbolLevel': '100', 'espeak': {'voice': 'en', 'variant': 'quincy', 'rate': '44', 'pitch': '42', 'inflection': '75', 'volume': '95', 'capPitchChange': '30'}, 'sapi5': {'voice': 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech\\Voices\\Tokens\\ScanSoftDaniel_Full_22kHz', 'volume': '80', 'rate': '70', 'capPitchChange': '53', 'pitch': '44'}, 'mssp': {'voice': 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech Server\\v11.0\\Voices\\Tokens\\TTS_MS_en-GB_Hazel_11.0', 'volume': '93', 'rate': '60', 'capPitchChange': '40'}, 'silence': {}, 'sapi4': {'voice': '{BF5EAD40-9F65-11CF-8FC8-0020AF14F271}', 'rate': '72', 'pitch': '23', 'volume': '39'}, 'pico': {'voice': 'en-gb', 'volume': '86', 'rate': '52', 'pitch': '55'}}, 'braille': {'messageTimeout': '4', 'noBraille': {'port': ''}}, 'presentation': {'reportTooltips': 'True', 'guessObjectPositionInformationWhenUnavailable': 'True', 'reportDynamicContentChanges': 'True', 'progressBarUpdates': {'progressBarOutputMode': 'both'}}, 'virtualBuffers': {'autoPassThroughOnCaretMove': 'True', 'useScreenLayout': 'False'}, 'documentFormatting': {'reportRevisions': 'False', 'reportSpellingErrors': 'True', 'reportLineIndentation': 'False', 'reportBlockQuotes': 'False', 'autoLanguageSwitching': 'True', 'reportAlignment': 'True', 'reportLineIndentationWithTones': 'True', 'reportColor': 'False', 'reportFontName': 'False', 'reportFontSize': 'False', 'reportFontAttributes': 'False', 'reportBorderStyle': 'True'}, 'keyboard': {'speakTypedCharacters': 'True', 'speakTypedWords': 'False'}, 'audioThemes': {'speakRole': 'True'}, 'development': {'enableScratchpadDir': 'False'}, 'vision': {'NVDAHighlighter': {'highlightFocus': 'False', 'highlightNavigator': 'False', 'highlightBrowseMode': 'False'}, 'screenCurtain': {}}, 'UIA': {'selectiveEventRegistration': 'True'}, 'unmute': {'volume': '20', 'minlevel': '5', 'reinit': 'True', 'retries': '0', 'switchdevice': 'True', 'playsound': 'True'}}
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
setting language to Windows
DEBUGWARNING - languageHandler.setLanguage (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
couldn't set the translation service locale to en_US
DEBUGWARNING - languageHandler.setLanguage (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
couldn't set the translation service locale to en
DEBUG - languageHandler.setLocale (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Win32 locale string from locale code is English_United States.1252
DEBUG - languageHandler._setPythonLocale (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
set python locale to English_United States.1252
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Windows version: Windows 7 (6.1.7601) service pack Service Pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Using Python version 3.7.9 (tags/v3.7.9:13c94747c7, Aug 17 2020, 18:01:55) [MSC v.1900 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Using comtypes version 1.1.8
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:44.564) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing add-ons system
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.567) - MainThread (5784):
Listing add-ons from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.567) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.568) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on addonUpdater - 22.03.1. Requires API: (2021, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.568) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\applicationDictionary
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (07:43:44.569) - MainThread (5784):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\applicationDictionary\locale\en\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.570) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on applicationDictionary - 2022.03.26. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.570) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\audiothemes
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.571) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on audiothemes - 6.0. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.571) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\charInfo
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.572) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on charInfo - 1.8. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.572) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\clipspeak
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (07:43:44.572) - MainThread (5784):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\clipspeak\locale\en\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.573) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on clipspeak - 2022.04. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.573) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\directLink
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.574) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on directLink - 1.0. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.574) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\dropbox
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.575) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on dropbox - 4.7. Requires API: (2019, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.575) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\extendedWinamp
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.576) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on extendedWinamp - 2.1. Requires API: (2020, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.576) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\fakeClipboardAnouncement
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.577) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on fakeClipboardAnouncement - 1.0. Requires API: (2013, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.577) - MainThread (5784):
Disabling add-on fakeClipboardAnouncement
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.577) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\goldenCursor
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.578) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on goldenCursor - 5.1. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.578) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\goldwave
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.579) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on goldwave - 19.11. Requires API: (2019, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.579) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\IndentNav
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.580) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on IndentNav - 1.7. Requires API: (2019, 2, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.580) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Mozilla
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.581) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on Mozilla - 1.16. Requires API: (2018, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.581) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\objPad
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.582) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on objPad - 21.06. Requires API: (2020, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.582) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\openLinkWith
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.583) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on openLinkWith - 2.4. Requires API: (2018, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.583) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\readFeeds
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.584) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on readFeeds - 13.0. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.584) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\resourceMonitor
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.585) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on resourceMonitor - 22.03.1. Requires API: (2021, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.585) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\svox-pico
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.586) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on svox-pico - 3.3-dev. Requires API: (2018, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.586) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\systrayList
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.587) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on systrayList - 2022.03. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.587) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\toolbarsExplorer
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.588) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on toolbarsExplorer - 1.5. Requires API: (2017, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.588) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\unmute
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.589) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on unmute - 1.5.5. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.138) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing appModule Handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.138) - MainThread (5784):
Addon extendedWinamp added to appModules package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.138) - MainThread (5784):
Addon goldwave added to appModules package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.139) - MainThread (5784):
Addon Mozilla added to appModules package path
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.139) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.265) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing tones
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.269) - MainThread (5784):
Speech Dictionary processing
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.269) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.269) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic' not found.
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.270) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\builtin.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.275) - MainThread (5784):
3 loaded records.
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.275) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing speech
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.276) - MainThread (5784):
Addon svox-pico added to synthDrivers package path
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (07:43:45.341) - MainThread (5784):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.51-dev
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.965) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\espeak\espeak-English (Great Britain).dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.971) - MainThread (5784):
11 loaded records.
DEBUG - synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded settings for SynthDriver espeak
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
DEBUG - speech.sayAll.initialize (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing sayAllHandler
INFO - core.main (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Using wx version 4.1.1 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.1.5 with six version 1.16.0
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.973) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing braille input
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (07:43:45.973) - MainThread (5784):
Braille input initialized
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.973) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing braille
INFO - braille.initialize (07:43:45.974) - MainThread (5784):
Using liblouis version 3.19.0
INFO - braille.initialize (07:43:45.976) - MainThread (5784):
Using pySerial version 3.5
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._registerConfigSaveAction (07:43:45.977) - MainThread (5784):
registering pre_configSave action: <class 'brailleDisplayDrivers.noBraille.BrailleDisplayDriver'>
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:45.980) - MainThread (5784):
loading braille noBraille
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (07:43:45.980) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.980) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing vision
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.981) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing displayModel
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.981) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing GUI
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - languageHandler.setLocale (07:43:45.996) - MainThread (5784):
Win32 locale string from locale code is English_United States.1252
DEBUG - languageHandler._setPythonLocale (07:43:45.996) - MainThread (5784):
set python locale to English_United States.1252
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.996) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing garbageHandler
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.001) - MainThread (5784):
initializing Java Access Bridge support
INFO - core.main (07:43:46.091) - MainThread (5784):
Java Access Bridge support initialized
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.093) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing legacy winConsole support
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.160) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing UIA support
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (07:43:46.166) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (1564):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.330) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing IAccessible support
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.330) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing input core
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadLocaleGestureMap (07:43:46.331) - MainThread (5784):
No locale gesture map for language en
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.331) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing keyboard handler
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.331) - MainThread (5784):
initializing mouse handler
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing touchHandler
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Touch only supported on Windows 8 and higher
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing global plugin handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Addon addonUpdater added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Addon applicationDictionary added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon audiothemes added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon charInfo added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon clipspeak added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon directLink added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon dropbox added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon goldenCursor added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon IndentNav added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon objPad added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon openLinkWith added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon readFeeds added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon resourceMonitor added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon systrayList added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon toolbarsExplorer added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon unmute added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.__init__ (07:43:46.576) - MainThread (5784):
Initialising clipboard monitor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.get_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating clipboard data...
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.enumerate_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Opening the clipboard for enumeration.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.enumerate_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Retrieving clipboard format: 0
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.enumerate_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Closing clipboard.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.charinfo.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (07:43:46.616) - MainThread (5784):
Unicode version: 14.0.0
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.077) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing core pump
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.077) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing watchdog
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.078) - MainThread (5784):
initializing updateCheck
INFO - core.main (07:43:47.081) - MainThread (5784):
NVDA initialized
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.081) - MainThread (5784):
entering wx application main loop
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._registerConfigSaveAction (07:43:47.093) - MainThread (5784):
registering pre_configSave action: <class 'visionEnhancementProviders.NVDAHighlighter.NVDAHighlighterSettings'>
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.098) - MainThread (5784):
loading vision NVDAHighlighter
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.098) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded settings for NVDAHighlighterSettings
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._registerConfigSaveAction (07:43:47.101) - MainThread (5784):
registering pre_configSave action: <class 'visionEnhancementProviders.screenCurtain.ScreenCurtainSettings'>
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.105) - MainThread (5784):
loading vision screenCurtain
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.105) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded settings for ScreenCurtainSettings
DEBUG - core._doPostNvdaStartupAction (07:43:47.124) - MainThread (5784):
Notify of postNvdaStartup action
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:47.128) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:47.128) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:47.130) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Taskbar', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUGWARNING - characterProcessing._getSpeechSymbolsForLocale (07:43:47.131) - MainThread (5784):
No CLDR data for locale en_GB
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:43:49.831) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):alt+tab
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:49.852) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\csrss.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:49.853) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\csrss.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:49.853) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', 'icon', '1 of 2', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:51.636) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\msimn.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:51.637) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\msimn.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:51.637) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:51.668) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:51.674) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'expanded unread From: Sukil Etxenike via groups.io; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 10:47', '16794 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:43:57.590) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):end
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:57.612) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'unread From: Rui Fontes; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 15:59', '16795 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:02.415) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._reportErrorInPreviousWord (07:44:02.553) - MainThread (5784):
Error fetching last character of previous word
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1050, in _reportErrorInPreviousWord
 File "documentBase.pyc", line 22, in makeTextInfo
 File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 470, in __init__
 File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 249, in _getCaretOffset
NotImplementedError
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:02.558) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons - Unicode (UTF-8)', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (07:44:02.616) - MainThread (5784):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>
DEBUG - virtualBuffers.VirtualBuffer._loadBuffer (07:44:02.633) - virtualBuffers.MSHTML.VirtualBuffer.loadBuffer (4672):
Buffer load took 0.016 sec, 4960 chars
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:02.647) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'align left', 'Hello!']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:03.711) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:03.723) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:05.159) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:05.175) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:06.143) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:06.153) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:06.623) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:06.637) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'It will be good only if it was possible to use the "Translation memory", ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:10.463) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:10.477) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'It will be good only if it was possible to use the "Translation memory",  selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:15.006) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (07:44:15.012) - MainThread (5784):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8290>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x07127C10>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:15.015) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: It will be good only if it was possible to use the "Translation memory", ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:17.311) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (07:44:17.342) - MainThread (5784):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (07:44:17.376) - MainThread (5784):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:17.380) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:17.382) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:17.388) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Rui Fontes; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 15:59', '16795 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:20.591) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:20.637) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:20.669) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:23.415) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (07:44:23.424) - MainThread (5784):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:23.465) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:23.477) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:23.483) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Rui Fontes; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 15:59', '16795 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:25.743) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+r
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:25.827) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons - Unicode (UTF-8)', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:25.891) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:32.446) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8290>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x06D6F330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (07:44:32.463) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (07:44:32.463) - MainThread (5784):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x06D6F330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (07:44:32.468) - MainThread (5784):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (07:44:32.468) - MainThread (5784):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (07:44:32.468) - MainThread (5784):
Validating clipboard mode: 3
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:36.911) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (07:44:36.943) - MainThread (5784):
Caret move detected using event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:40.639) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):t
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:40.652) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 't', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:41.071) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):e
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:41.088) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'e', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:41.567) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):s
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:41.588) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 's', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:42.319) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):t
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:42.338) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 't', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:53.375) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.429) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.430) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic' not found.
DEBUG - config.ConfigManager._triggerProfileEnter (07:44:53.460) - MainThread (5784):
Activating triggered profile command
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:44:53.460) - MainThread (5784):
Loading config: C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\command.ini
DEBUG - config.profileUpgrader.upgrade (07:44:53.461) - MainThread (5784):
Current config schema version: 4, latest: 4
DEBUG - fileUtils.FaultTolerantFile (07:44:53.466) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\command.initbaw0fm7.tmp
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:44:53.472) - MainThread (5784):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{'schemaVersion': '4', 'vision': {'NVDAHighlighter': {'highlightFocus': 'False', 'highlightNavigator': 'False', 'highlightBrowseMode': 'False'}}, 'presentation': {'reportDynamicContentChanges': 'True'}}
DEBUG - synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (07:44:53.474) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded changed settings for SynthDriver espeak
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.613) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\cmd.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.613) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\cmd.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:53.615) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'reboot nvda with log', 'terminal', CancellableSpeech (still valid), '80 space', 'blank']
INFO - core.main (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Exiting
DEBUG - core.triggerNVDAExit (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
_doShutdown has been queued
DEBUG - core.main (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
NVDA not already exiting, hit catch-all exit trigger. This likely indicates NVDA is exiting due to WM_QUIT.
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating updateCheck
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating watchdog
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating globalPluginHandler
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (07:44:53.629) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\audiothemes\globalPlugins\audiothemes\__init__.py:67: wxPyDeprecationWarning: Call to deprecated item. Use Remove instead.
 gui.mainFrame.sysTrayIcon.menu.RemoveItem(self.studioMenuItem)
DEBUG - core._closeAllWindows (07:44:53.631) - MainThread (5784):
destroying system tray icon and menu
DEBUG - core._closeAllWindows (07:44:53.636) - MainThread (5784):
destroying main frame during exit process
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.636) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating gui
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._saveSpecificSettings (07:44:53.637) - MainThread (5784):
Saved settings for NVDAHighlighterSettings
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._saveSpecificSettings (07:44:53.637) - MainThread (5784):
Saved settings for ScreenCurtainSettings
DEBUG - fileUtils.FaultTolerantFile (07:44:53.637) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.initv4_ezlu.tmp
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (07:44:53.640) - MainThread (5784):
Base configuration saved
DEBUG - fileUtils.FaultTolerantFile (07:44:53.641) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\command.iniz2su4pr0.tmp
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (07:44:53.643) - MainThread (5784):
Saved configuration profile command
DEBUG - core.main (07:44:53.643) - MainThread (5784):
calling lose focus on object with focus
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.644) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating treeInterceptorHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.644) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating IAccessible support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.644) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating UIA support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating Legacy winConsole support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating Java Access Bridge support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating app module handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating tones
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.680) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating touchHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating keyboard handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating mouseHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating inputCore
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating vision
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating brailleInput
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.683) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating braille
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.686) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating speech
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.689) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating addonHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.690) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating garbageHandler
DEBUG - core.main (07:44:54.741) - MainThread (5784):
core done
INFO - __main__ (07:44:54.758) - MainThread (5784):
NVDA exit


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Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Hello!


The log was cutted before time...


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Às 11:57 de 09/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
The log below shows a copy, which works and says the message, then opening a new email template, and attempting, after tabbing down to the message body, to paste it in there. This paste succeeds, but no message is spoken.
I guess the editable field is not one recognised, but it was in the old version. Is there perhaps a line missing somewhere?

IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:11.401) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Dear Mark selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:12.620) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:12.631) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'line feed selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:15.060) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3BD90>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:15.067) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: Dear Mark\r\n']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:20.148) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (11:39:20.184) - MainThread (5140):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (11:39:20.205) - MainThread (5140):
application explorer closed
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (11:39:20.218) - MainThread (5140):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.223) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Inbox - Outlook Express - Kingston Talking Newspaper', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.225) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.230) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Mariza Jurgans; Subject: Re: Mark was re elected.; Received: 08/05/2022 21:37', '3507 of 3507', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:22.100) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.160) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.195) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.149) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.179) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'CC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.654) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.673) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'BCC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:25.141) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:25.177) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Subject:', 'edit', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:26.661) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:26.719) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:28.596) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Validating clipboard mode: 3


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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

That is not quite what I meant. It is just that sometimes, indeed a lot of times it tries to suggest its copied text when its copied files or the other way around.
Apologies if you've already done this and I missed it, but can you suggest a common use case to demonstrate this?

That is to say, not Goldwave or something else specialized, but some combination of Word, Explorer, certain web browsers that most of us might have, etc.?

Because what you describe does sound like something that aught not to happen.

Luke















Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Some comments...


Brian wrote:

I think the actual thing that has been cut, copied pasted etc, is not that relevant in the main, but the actual indication that something has happened is.


In the current stable version user can configure if he wants to hear what was copied, cut or pasted or hear only copy, cut or paste...



Brian wrote:

It also sometimes gets confused if you have used the  keypad modes to cut stuff to the clipboard, I get random things like no change or  nothing spoken at times.


Sorry, but the current stable version do not have any more the check of clipboard content, so the message "No change" is no more present in the add-on...

This check was removed because it was inconsistent...


Rui Fontes


Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Rui Fontes
 

Nop, due to the fact of existing several keystrokes for that...

At least, Control+A in english and brazilian portuguese and Control+T in portuguese...

And, even in portuguese, some programs use Control+A...

In File explorer you can check through the status bar...


How to solve that to avoid erroneous informations?


Rui Fontes


Às 11:39 de 10/05/2022, Jelal Bairamoglou escreveu:

Hello!
 does not speak when you select all files in Explorer.

On 3/5/2022 1:20 μ.μ., Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


I do not use GoldWave, so I do not know how to restrict the announcement of information to just when necessary...


Rui Fontes


Às 08:57 de 03/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
Seems to have got rid of cut announcement in Goldwave which is the same command as in word. Its totally silent whereas the previous version said cut text, but that could have just been made to say cut everywhere.
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Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

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Yes I have to say that the slightly older version did things a little better. I suspect some of the things that worked before were almost by accident and now the criteria has been tightened, some of these have become non operative.
I think the actual thing that has been cut, copied pasted etc, is not that relevant in the main, but the actual indication that something has happened is. Thus the add on could be simplified I think. I may install the current one on a portable version and reinstall the older one for ease of use until its probably broken by the new version of NVDA grin.
I still maintain that this function should be in the screenreader itself, toggle as it is in others.

It also sometimes gets confused if you have used the keypad modes to cut stuff to the clipboard, I get random things like no change or nothing spoken at times.
Very weird. I can actually follow how the add on works by looking at string variables and from windows. buts far too complex for me these days. Very well structured and commented.
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From: "Jelal Bairamoglou" <jxb1311@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Hello!
does not speak when you select all files in Explorer.

On 3/5/2022 1:20 μ.μ., Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


I do not use GoldWave, so I do not know how to restrict the announcement of information to just when necessary...


Rui Fontes


Às 08:57 de 03/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
Seems to have got rid of cut announcement in Goldwave which is the same command as in word. Its totally silent whereas the previous version said cut text, but that could have just been made to say cut everywhere.
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Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Jelal Bairamoglou
 

Hello!
 does not speak when you select all files in Explorer.

On 3/5/2022 1:20 μ.μ., Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


I do not use GoldWave, so I do not know how to restrict the announcement of information to just when necessary...


Rui Fontes


Às 08:57 de 03/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
Seems to have got rid of cut announcement in Goldwave which is the same command as in word. Its totally silent whereas the previous version said cut text, but that could have just been made to say cut everywhere.
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Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

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OK here is the whole log of the strange behaviour. Not it has a lot more junk in it, particularly at the end.
INFO - __main__ (07:43:44.471) - MainThread (5784):
Starting NVDA version 2021.3.5
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.491) - MainThread (5784):
Config dir: C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:43:44.491) - MainThread (5784):
Loading config: C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:43:44.501) - MainThread (5784):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{'schemaVersion': '4', 'upgrade': {}, 'update': {'autoCheck': 'True', 'startupNotification': 'True', 'allowUsageStats': 'True', 'askedAllowUsageStats': 'True'}, 'general': {'showWelcomeDialogAtStartup': 'False', 'language': 'Windows', 'saveConfigurationOnExit': 'True', 'askToExit': 'True', 'playStartAndExitSounds': 'True', 'loggingLevel': 'DEBUG'}, 'speech': {'synth': 'espeak', 'outputDevice': 'Speakers (3- BEHRINGER USB WDM ', 'symbolLevel': '100', 'espeak': {'voice': 'en', 'variant': 'quincy', 'rate': '44', 'pitch': '42', 'inflection': '75', 'volume': '95', 'capPitchChange': '30'}, 'sapi5': {'voice': 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech\\Voices\\Tokens\\ScanSoftDaniel_Full_22kHz', 'volume': '80', 'rate': '70', 'capPitchChange': '53', 'pitch': '44'}, 'mssp': {'voice': 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech Server\\v11.0\\Voices\\Tokens\\TTS_MS_en-GB_Hazel_11.0', 'volume': '93', 'rate': '60', 'capPitchChange': '40'}, 'silence': {}, 'sapi4': {'voice': '{BF5EAD40-9F65-11CF-8FC8-0020AF14F271}', 'rate': '72', 'pitch': '23', 'volume': '39'}, 'pico': {'voice': 'en-gb', 'volume': '86', 'rate': '52', 'pitch': '55'}}, 'braille': {'messageTimeout': '4', 'noBraille': {'port': ''}}, 'presentation': {'reportTooltips': 'True', 'guessObjectPositionInformationWhenUnavailable': 'True', 'reportDynamicContentChanges': 'True', 'progressBarUpdates': {'progressBarOutputMode': 'both'}}, 'virtualBuffers': {'autoPassThroughOnCaretMove': 'True', 'useScreenLayout': 'False'}, 'documentFormatting': {'reportRevisions': 'False', 'reportSpellingErrors': 'True', 'reportLineIndentation': 'False', 'reportBlockQuotes': 'False', 'autoLanguageSwitching': 'True', 'reportAlignment': 'True', 'reportLineIndentationWithTones': 'True', 'reportColor': 'False', 'reportFontName': 'False', 'reportFontSize': 'False', 'reportFontAttributes': 'False', 'reportBorderStyle': 'True'}, 'keyboard': {'speakTypedCharacters': 'True', 'speakTypedWords': 'False'}, 'audioThemes': {'speakRole': 'True'}, 'development': {'enableScratchpadDir': 'False'}, 'vision': {'NVDAHighlighter': {'highlightFocus': 'False', 'highlightNavigator': 'False', 'highlightBrowseMode': 'False'}, 'screenCurtain': {}}, 'UIA': {'selectiveEventRegistration': 'True'}, 'unmute': {'volume': '20', 'minlevel': '5', 'reinit': 'True', 'retries': '0', 'switchdevice': 'True', 'playsound': 'True'}}
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
setting language to Windows
DEBUGWARNING - languageHandler.setLanguage (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
couldn't set the translation service locale to en_US
DEBUGWARNING - languageHandler.setLanguage (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
couldn't set the translation service locale to en
DEBUG - languageHandler.setLocale (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Win32 locale string from locale code is English_United States.1252
DEBUG - languageHandler._setPythonLocale (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
set python locale to English_United States.1252
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Windows version: Windows 7 (6.1.7601) service pack Service Pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Using Python version 3.7.9 (tags/v3.7.9:13c94747c7, Aug 17 2020, 18:01:55) [MSC v.1900 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Using comtypes version 1.1.8
INFO - core.main (07:43:44.532) - MainThread (5784):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:44.564) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing add-ons system
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.567) - MainThread (5784):
Listing add-ons from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.567) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.568) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on addonUpdater - 22.03.1. Requires API: (2021, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.568) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\applicationDictionary
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (07:43:44.569) - MainThread (5784):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\applicationDictionary\locale\en\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.570) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on applicationDictionary - 2022.03.26. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.570) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\audiothemes
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.571) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on audiothemes - 6.0. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.571) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\charInfo
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.572) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on charInfo - 1.8. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.572) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\clipspeak
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.__init__ (07:43:44.572) - MainThread (5784):
Using manifest translation from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\clipspeak\locale\en\manifest.ini
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.573) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on clipspeak - 2022.04. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.573) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\directLink
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.574) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on directLink - 1.0. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.574) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\dropbox
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.575) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on dropbox - 4.7. Requires API: (2019, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.575) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\extendedWinamp
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.576) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on extendedWinamp - 2.1. Requires API: (2020, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.576) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\fakeClipboardAnouncement
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.577) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on fakeClipboardAnouncement - 1.0. Requires API: (2013, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.577) - MainThread (5784):
Disabling add-on fakeClipboardAnouncement
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.577) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\goldenCursor
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.578) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on goldenCursor - 5.1. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.578) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\goldwave
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.579) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on goldwave - 19.11. Requires API: (2019, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.579) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\IndentNav
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.580) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on IndentNav - 1.7. Requires API: (2019, 2, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 2, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.580) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\Mozilla
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.581) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on Mozilla - 1.16. Requires API: (2018, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.581) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\objPad
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.582) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on objPad - 21.06. Requires API: (2020, 1, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.582) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\openLinkWith
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.583) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on openLinkWith - 2.4. Requires API: (2018, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.583) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\readFeeds
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.584) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on readFeeds - 13.0. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.584) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\resourceMonitor
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.585) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on resourceMonitor - 22.03.1. Requires API: (2021, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.585) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\svox-pico
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.586) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on svox-pico - 3.3-dev. Requires API: (2018, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.586) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\systrayList
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.587) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on systrayList - 2022.03. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2022, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.587) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\toolbarsExplorer
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.588) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on toolbarsExplorer - 1.5. Requires API: (2017, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.588) - MainThread (5784):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\unmute
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (07:43:44.589) - MainThread (5784):
Found add-on unmute - 1.5.5. Requires API: (2019, 3, 0). Last-tested API: (2021, 1, 0)
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.138) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing appModule Handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.138) - MainThread (5784):
Addon extendedWinamp added to appModules package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.138) - MainThread (5784):
Addon goldwave added to appModules package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.139) - MainThread (5784):
Addon Mozilla added to appModules package path
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.139) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.265) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing tones
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.269) - MainThread (5784):
Speech Dictionary processing
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.269) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.269) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic' not found.
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.270) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\builtin.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.275) - MainThread (5784):
3 loaded records.
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.275) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing speech
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:45.276) - MainThread (5784):
Addon svox-pico added to synthDrivers package path
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (07:43:45.341) - MainThread (5784):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.51-dev
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.965) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\espeak\espeak-English (Great Britain).dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:45.971) - MainThread (5784):
11 loaded records.
DEBUG - synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded settings for SynthDriver espeak
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
DEBUG - speech.sayAll.initialize (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing sayAllHandler
INFO - core.main (07:43:45.972) - MainThread (5784):
Using wx version 4.1.1 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.1.5 with six version 1.16.0
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.973) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing braille input
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (07:43:45.973) - MainThread (5784):
Braille input initialized
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.973) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing braille
INFO - braille.initialize (07:43:45.974) - MainThread (5784):
Using liblouis version 3.19.0
INFO - braille.initialize (07:43:45.976) - MainThread (5784):
Using pySerial version 3.5
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._registerConfigSaveAction (07:43:45.977) - MainThread (5784):
registering pre_configSave action: <class 'brailleDisplayDrivers.noBraille.BrailleDisplayDriver'>
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:45.980) - MainThread (5784):
loading braille noBraille
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (07:43:45.980) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.980) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing vision
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.981) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing displayModel
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.981) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing GUI
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - windowUtils._rawWindowProc (07:43:45.995) - MainThread (5784):
CustomWindow rawWindowProc called for unknown window 262518
DEBUG - languageHandler.setLocale (07:43:45.996) - MainThread (5784):
Win32 locale string from locale code is English_United States.1252
DEBUG - languageHandler._setPythonLocale (07:43:45.996) - MainThread (5784):
set python locale to English_United States.1252
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:45.996) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing garbageHandler
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.001) - MainThread (5784):
initializing Java Access Bridge support
INFO - core.main (07:43:46.091) - MainThread (5784):
Java Access Bridge support initialized
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.093) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing legacy winConsole support
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.160) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing UIA support
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (07:43:46.166) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (1564):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.330) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing IAccessible support
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.330) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing input core
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadLocaleGestureMap (07:43:46.331) - MainThread (5784):
No locale gesture map for language en
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.331) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing keyboard handler
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.331) - MainThread (5784):
initializing mouse handler
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing touchHandler
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Touch only supported on Windows 8 and higher
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing global plugin handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Addon addonUpdater added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.343) - MainThread (5784):
Addon applicationDictionary added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon audiothemes added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon charInfo added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon clipspeak added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon directLink added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon dropbox added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon goldenCursor added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.344) - MainThread (5784):
Addon IndentNav added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon objPad added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon openLinkWith added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon readFeeds added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon resourceMonitor added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon systrayList added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon toolbarsExplorer added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (07:43:46.345) - MainThread (5784):
Addon unmute added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.__init__ (07:43:46.576) - MainThread (5784):
Initialising clipboard monitor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.get_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating clipboard data...
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.enumerate_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Opening the clipboard for enumeration.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.enumerate_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Retrieving clipboard format: 0
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.clipboard_monitor.clipboard_monitor.enumerate_clipboard (07:43:46.577) - MainThread (5784):
Closing clipboard.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.charinfo.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (07:43:46.616) - MainThread (5784):
Unicode version: 14.0.0
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.077) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing core pump
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.077) - MainThread (5784):
Initializing watchdog
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.078) - MainThread (5784):
initializing updateCheck
INFO - core.main (07:43:47.081) - MainThread (5784):
NVDA initialized
DEBUG - core.main (07:43:47.081) - MainThread (5784):
entering wx application main loop
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._registerConfigSaveAction (07:43:47.093) - MainThread (5784):
registering pre_configSave action: <class 'visionEnhancementProviders.NVDAHighlighter.NVDAHighlighterSettings'>
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.098) - MainThread (5784):
loading vision NVDAHighlighter
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.098) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded settings for NVDAHighlighterSettings
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._registerConfigSaveAction (07:43:47.101) - MainThread (5784):
registering pre_configSave action: <class 'visionEnhancementProviders.screenCurtain.ScreenCurtainSettings'>
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.105) - MainThread (5784):
loading vision screenCurtain
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._loadSpecificSettings (07:43:47.105) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded settings for ScreenCurtainSettings
DEBUG - core._doPostNvdaStartupAction (07:43:47.124) - MainThread (5784):
Notify of postNvdaStartup action
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:47.128) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:47.128) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:47.130) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Taskbar', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUGWARNING - characterProcessing._getSpeechSymbolsForLocale (07:43:47.131) - MainThread (5784):
No CLDR data for locale en_GB
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:43:49.831) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):alt+tab
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:49.852) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\csrss.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:49.853) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\csrss.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:49.853) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', 'icon', '1 of 2', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:51.636) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\msimn.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:43:51.637) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\msimn.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:51.637) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:51.668) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:51.674) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'expanded unread From: Sukil Etxenike via groups.io; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 10:47', '16794 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:43:57.590) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):end
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:43:57.612) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'unread From: Rui Fontes; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 15:59', '16795 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:02.415) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.NVDAObject._reportErrorInPreviousWord (07:44:02.553) - MainThread (5784):
Error fetching last character of previous word
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1050, in _reportErrorInPreviousWord
File "documentBase.pyc", line 22, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 470, in __init__
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 249, in _getCaretOffset
NotImplementedError
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:02.558) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons - Unicode (UTF-8)', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (07:44:02.616) - MainThread (5784):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>
DEBUG - virtualBuffers.VirtualBuffer._loadBuffer (07:44:02.633) - virtualBuffers.MSHTML.VirtualBuffer.loadBuffer (4672):
Buffer load took 0.016 sec, 4960 chars
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:02.647) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CallbackCommand(name=say-all:lineReached), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'align left', 'Hello!']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:03.711) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:03.723) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:05.159) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:05.175) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:06.143) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:06.153) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:06.623) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:06.637) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'It will be good only if it was possible to use the "Translation memory", ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:10.463) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:10.477) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'It will be good only if it was possible to use the "Translation memory", selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:15.006) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (07:44:15.012) - MainThread (5784):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8290>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x07127C10>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.013) - MainThread (5784):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:15.014) - MainThread (5784):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:15.015) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: It will be good only if it was possible to use the "Translation memory", ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:17.311) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (07:44:17.342) - MainThread (5784):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (07:44:17.376) - MainThread (5784):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x07127830>
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:17.380) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:17.382) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:17.388) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Rui Fontes; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 15:59', '16795 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:20.591) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:20.637) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:20.669) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:23.415) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (07:44:23.424) - MainThread (5784):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:23.465) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), '3 nvda add-ons list - Outlook Express - Brians lists account BGlists', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:23.477) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:23.483) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Rui Fontes; Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons; Received: 08/05/2022 15:59', '16795 of 16795', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:25.743) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+r
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:25.827) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Re: [nvda-addons] From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons - Unicode (UTF-8)', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:25.891) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:32.446) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8290>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.452) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x051C8330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x06D6F330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (07:44:32.453) - MainThread (5784):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (07:44:32.463) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (07:44:32.463) - MainThread (5784):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x06D6F330>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (07:44:32.468) - MainThread (5784):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (07:44:32.468) - MainThread (5784):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (07:44:32.468) - MainThread (5784):
Validating clipboard mode: 3
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:36.911) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (07:44:36.943) - MainThread (5784):
Caret move detected using event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:40.639) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):t
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:40.652) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 't', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:41.071) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):e
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:41.088) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'e', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:41.567) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):s
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:41.588) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 's', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:42.319) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):t
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:42.338) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [CharacterModeCommand(True), LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 't', EndUtteranceCommand()]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:44:53.375) - winInputHook (4856):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.429) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.430) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\explorer.dic' not found.
DEBUG - config.ConfigManager._triggerProfileEnter (07:44:53.460) - MainThread (5784):
Activating triggered profile command
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:44:53.460) - MainThread (5784):
Loading config: C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\command.ini
DEBUG - config.profileUpgrader.upgrade (07:44:53.461) - MainThread (5784):
Current config schema version: 4, latest: 4
DEBUG - fileUtils.FaultTolerantFile (07:44:53.466) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\command.initbaw0fm7.tmp
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:44:53.472) - MainThread (5784):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{'schemaVersion': '4', 'vision': {'NVDAHighlighter': {'highlightFocus': 'False', 'highlightNavigator': 'False', 'highlightBrowseMode': 'False'}}, 'presentation': {'reportDynamicContentChanges': 'True'}}
DEBUG - synthDriverHandler.SynthDriver.loadSettings (07:44:53.474) - MainThread (5784):
Loaded changed settings for SynthDriver espeak
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.613) - MainThread (5784):
Loading speech dictionary 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\cmd.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (07:44:53.613) - MainThread (5784):
file 'C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\appDicts\cmd.dic' not found.
IO - speech.speech.speak (07:44:53.615) - MainThread (5784):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'reboot nvda with log', 'terminal', CancellableSpeech (still valid), '80 space', 'blank']
INFO - core.main (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Exiting
DEBUG - core.triggerNVDAExit (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
_doShutdown has been queued
DEBUG - core.main (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
NVDA not already exiting, hit catch-all exit trigger. This likely indicates NVDA is exiting due to WM_QUIT.
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating updateCheck
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating watchdog
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.628) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating globalPluginHandler
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (07:44:53.629) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\audiothemes\globalPlugins\audiothemes\__init__.py:67: wxPyDeprecationWarning: Call to deprecated item. Use Remove instead.
gui.mainFrame.sysTrayIcon.menu.RemoveItem(self.studioMenuItem)
DEBUG - core._closeAllWindows (07:44:53.631) - MainThread (5784):
destroying system tray icon and menu
DEBUG - core._closeAllWindows (07:44:53.636) - MainThread (5784):
destroying main frame during exit process
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.636) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating gui
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._saveSpecificSettings (07:44:53.637) - MainThread (5784):
Saved settings for NVDAHighlighterSettings
DEBUG - autoSettingsUtils.autoSettings.AutoSettings._saveSpecificSettings (07:44:53.637) - MainThread (5784):
Saved settings for ScreenCurtainSettings
DEBUG - fileUtils.FaultTolerantFile (07:44:53.637) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.initv4_ezlu.tmp
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (07:44:53.640) - MainThread (5784):
Base configuration saved
DEBUG - fileUtils.FaultTolerantFile (07:44:53.641) - MainThread (5784):
C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\command.iniz2su4pr0.tmp
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (07:44:53.643) - MainThread (5784):
Saved configuration profile command
DEBUG - core.main (07:44:53.643) - MainThread (5784):
calling lose focus on object with focus
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.644) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating treeInterceptorHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.644) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating IAccessible support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.644) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating UIA support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating Legacy winConsole support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating Java Access Bridge support
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating app module handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.679) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating tones
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.680) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating touchHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating keyboard handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating mouseHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating inputCore
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating vision
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.682) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating brailleInput
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.683) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating braille
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.686) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating speech
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.689) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating addonHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (07:44:53.690) - MainThread (5784):
Terminating garbageHandler
DEBUG - core.main (07:44:54.741) - MainThread (5784):
core done
INFO - __main__ (07:44:54.758) - MainThread (5784):
NVDA exit


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2022 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Hello!


The log was cutted before time...


Rui Fontes



Às 11:57 de 09/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
The log below shows a copy, which works and says the message, then opening a new email template, and attempting, after tabbing down to the message body, to paste it in there. This paste succeeds, but no message is spoken.
I guess the editable field is not one recognised, but it was in the old version. Is there perhaps a line missing somewhere?

IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:11.401) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Dear Mark selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:12.620) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:12.631) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'line feed selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:15.060) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3BD90>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:15.067) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: Dear Mark\r\n']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:20.148) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (11:39:20.184) - MainThread (5140):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (11:39:20.205) - MainThread (5140):
application explorer closed
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (11:39:20.218) - MainThread (5140):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.223) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Inbox - Outlook Express - Kingston Talking Newspaper', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.225) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.230) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Mariza Jurgans; Subject: Re: Mark was re elected.; Received: 08/05/2022 21:37', '3507 of 3507', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:22.100) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.160) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.195) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.149) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.179) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'CC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.654) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.673) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'BCC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:25.141) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:25.177) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Subject:', 'edit', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:26.661) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:26.719) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:28.596) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Validating clipboard mode: 3


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

That is not quite what I meant. It is just that sometimes, indeed a lot of times it tries to suggest its copied text when its copied files or the other way around.
Apologies if you've already done this and I missed it, but can you suggest a common use case to demonstrate this?

That is to say, not Goldwave or something else specialized, but some combination of Word, Explorer, certain web browsers that most of us might have, etc.?

Because what you describe does sound like something that aught not to happen.

Luke











Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Rui Fontes
 

Don't need...

It was enough to determine the problem...


Please, try this version:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5orwburplutiyww/clipspeak_2022.04_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 15:51 de 09/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:

Well the next line was me terminating nvda, so I thought it had finished. I'll have to do it again later on.

Sorry.
I'll do a start up and an exit and send the lot next time.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2022 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Hello!


The log was cutted before time...


Rui Fontes



Às 11:57 de 09/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
The log below shows a copy, which works and says the message, then opening a new email template, and attempting, after tabbing down to the message body, to paste it in there. This paste succeeds, but no message is spoken.
I guess the editable field is not one recognised, but it was in the old version. Is there perhaps a line missing somewhere?

IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:11.401) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Dear Mark selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:12.620) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:12.631) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'line feed selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:15.060) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3BD90>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:15.067) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: Dear Mark\r\n']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:20.148) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (11:39:20.184) - MainThread (5140):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (11:39:20.205) - MainThread (5140):
application explorer closed
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (11:39:20.218) - MainThread (5140):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.223) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Inbox - Outlook Express - Kingston Talking Newspaper', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.225) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.230) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Mariza Jurgans; Subject: Re: Mark was re elected.; Received: 08/05/2022 21:37', '3507 of 3507', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:22.100) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.160) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.195) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.149) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.179) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'CC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.654) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.673) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'BCC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:25.141) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:25.177) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Subject:', 'edit', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:26.661) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:26.719) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:28.596) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Validating clipboard mode: 3


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

That is not quite what I meant. It is just that sometimes, indeed a lot of times it tries to suggest its copied text when its copied files or the other way around.
Apologies if you've already done this and I missed it, but can you suggest a common use case to demonstrate this?

That is to say, not Goldwave or something else specialized, but some combination of Word, Explorer, certain web browsers that most of us might have, etc.?

Because what you describe does sound like something that aught not to happen.

Luke















Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Brian's Mail list account
 

Well the next line was me terminating nvda, so I thought it had finished. I'll have to do it again later on.

Sorry.
I'll do a start up and an exit and send the lot next time.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2022 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Hello!


The log was cutted before time...


Rui Fontes



Às 11:57 de 09/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
The log below shows a copy, which works and says the message, then opening a new email template, and attempting, after tabbing down to the message body, to paste it in there. This paste succeeds, but no message is spoken.
I guess the editable field is not one recognised, but it was in the old version. Is there perhaps a line missing somewhere?

IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:11.401) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Dear Mark selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:12.620) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:12.631) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'line feed selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:15.060) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3BD90>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:15.067) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: Dear Mark\r\n']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:20.148) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (11:39:20.184) - MainThread (5140):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (11:39:20.205) - MainThread (5140):
application explorer closed
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (11:39:20.218) - MainThread (5140):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.223) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Inbox - Outlook Express - Kingston Talking Newspaper', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.225) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.230) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Mariza Jurgans; Subject: Re: Mark was re elected.; Received: 08/05/2022 21:37', '3507 of 3507', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:22.100) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.160) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.195) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.149) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.179) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'CC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.654) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.673) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'BCC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:25.141) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:25.177) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Subject:', 'edit', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:26.661) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:26.719) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:28.596) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Validating clipboard mode: 3


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

That is not quite what I meant. It is just that sometimes, indeed a lot of times it tries to suggest its copied text when its copied files or the other way around.
Apologies if you've already done this and I missed it, but can you suggest a common use case to demonstrate this?

That is to say, not Goldwave or something else specialized, but some combination of Word, Explorer, certain web browsers that most of us might have, etc.?

Because what you describe does sound like something that aught not to happen.

Luke











Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


The log was cutted before time...


Rui Fontes



Às 11:57 de 09/05/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:

The log below shows a copy, which works and says the message, then opening a new email template, and attempting, after tabbing down to the message body, to paste it in there. This paste succeeds, but no message is spoken.
I guess the editable field is not one recognised, but it was in the old version. Is there perhaps a line missing somewhere?

IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:11.401) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Dear Mark selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:12.620) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:12.631) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'line feed selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:15.060) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3BD90>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:15.067) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: Dear Mark\r\n']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:20.148) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (11:39:20.184) - MainThread (5140):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (11:39:20.205) - MainThread (5140):
application explorer closed
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (11:39:20.218) - MainThread (5140):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.223) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Inbox - Outlook Express - Kingston Talking Newspaper', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.225) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.230) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Mariza Jurgans; Subject: Re: Mark was re elected.; Received: 08/05/2022 21:37', '3507 of 3507', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:22.100) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.160) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.195) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.149) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.179) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'CC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.654) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.673) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'BCC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:25.141) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:25.177) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Subject:', 'edit', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:26.661) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:26.719) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:28.596) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Validating clipboard mode: 3


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

That is not quite what I meant. It is just that sometimes, indeed a lot of times it tries to suggest its copied text when its copied files or the other way around.
Apologies if you've already done this and I missed it, but can you suggest a common use case to demonstrate this?

That is to say, not Goldwave or something else specialized, but some combination of Word, Explorer, certain web browsers that most of us might have, etc.?

Because what you describe does sound like something that aught not to happen.

Luke









Re: Latest version of Clipspeak

Brian's Mail list account
 

The log below shows a copy, which works and says the message, then opening a new email template, and attempting, after tabbing down to the message body, to paste it in there. This paste succeeds, but no message is spoken.
I guess the editable field is not one recognised, but it was in the old version. Is there perhaps a line missing somewhere?

IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:11.401) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Dear Mark selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:12.620) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+downArrow
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:12.631) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'line feed selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:15.060) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+c
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Copy.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_copy (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.065) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+c'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3BD90>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Tree interceptor in use. Retrieving scripts for the interceptor.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining object: <bound method CursorManager.script_copyToClipboard of <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
Examining function attributes.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:15.066) - MainThread (5140):
This gesture is already handled elsewhere. Executing associated function.
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:15.067) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Copied to clipboard: Dear Mark\r\n']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:20.148) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):escape
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (11:39:20.184) - MainThread (5140):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (11:39:20.205) - MainThread (5140):
application explorer closed
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (11:39:20.218) - MainThread (5140):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.MSHTML.MSHTML object at 0x04B3B7D0>
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.223) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Inbox - Outlook Express - Kingston Talking Newspaper', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.225) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Outlook Express Message List', 'list', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:20.230) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'From: Mariza Jurgans; Subject: Re: Mark was re elected.; Received: 08/05/2022 21:37', '3507 of 3507', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:22.100) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+n
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.160) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'New Message', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:22.195) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'To:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.149) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.179) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'CC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:24.654) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:24.673) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'BCC:', 'edit', 'multi line', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:25.141) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:25.177) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'Subject:', 'edit', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'align left', 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:26.661) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speech.speak (11:39:26.719) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), 'document', 'editable', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (11:39:28.596) - winInputHook (5592):
Input: kb(desktop):control+v
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Script activated: Paste.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Processing input gesture.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Evaluating possible gestures.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Found gesture mapping:

DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.605) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for these maps.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C310>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating gestures for map <inputCore.GlobalGestureMap object at 0x0520C3B0>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb(desktop):control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Enumerating scripts for gesture 'kb:control+v'
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Found scripts: []
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Examining tree interceptor: None
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Checking tree interceptor state.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.process_input (11:39:28.606) - MainThread (5140):
Nothing associated here. Pass straight to the system.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.script_paste (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Speaking message.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.617) - MainThread (5140):
Examining focus object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionBodyMSHTMLIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject object at 0x04B3B990>
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.examine_focus (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Field seems to be editable.
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Finding appropriate message for clipboard content type: 1
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.clipspeak.GlobalPlugin.speak_appropriate_message (11:39:28.621) - MainThread (5140):
Validating clipboard mode: 3


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Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] Latest version of Clipspeak


Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

That is not quite what I meant. It is just that sometimes, indeed a lot of times it tries to suggest its copied text when its copied files or the other way around.
Apologies if you've already done this and I missed it, but can you suggest a common use case to demonstrate this?

That is to say, not Goldwave or something else specialized, but some combination of Word, Explorer, certain web browsers that most of us might have, etc.?

Because what you describe does sound like something that aught not to happen.

Luke





Re: From the random thoughts file: automatic translation of add-ons

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


It will be good only if it was possible to use the "Translation memory", a kind of repository of translations made by humans...

Using only automatic translation from Google, or even from DeepL, a better translation system, it will be very risky to use...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team




Às 10:47 de 08/05/2022, Sukil Etxenike via groups.io escreveu:

Hi,

Interesting. There are two problems here, though. The first one is automatic translation, which you already mentioned. This is aggravated by the lack of context in some strings, which could worsen it.

The second one would be placeholders (format strings and such). We would have to ensure that at least the placeholders are returned as is, and that exactly the ones requested are returned.

Thanks,

Sukil




El 08/05/2022 a las 6:15, Luke Davis escribió:
Hi all

Something I have been pondering for the last couple weeks.

In NVDA add-ons, at least those using the template, .pot files can be generated. In fact, my add-on Appveyor builds generate them all the time, although I don't generally use them.

Headers aside, these include message identifiers, file names/paths, and line numbers for each translatable string. Actually, the message itself is included as msgid, and the message string (msgstr) is empty, but that is how "scons pot" does it, so I assume it has to be that way.

Now let me say that I read and write about a dozen languages. These include: English, C, C++, Python, PERL, PHP, JAVA, Bash, YAML, HTML, CSS, and others.

Of course I jest. The only human language I speak is English, which is why I am asking about this here: my translation experience is absolutely none.

After the .pot files, the translation team goes to work, and we end up with per-language .po files, that have lines looking like these, taken from an older version of Add-on Updater:

msgid "Check for &add-on updates..."
msgstr "Buscar &actualizaciones de complementos..."
msgid "Check for NVDA add-on updates"
msgstr "Buscar actualizaciones de complementos de NVDA"
#. Translators: This is the label for the Add-on Updater settings panel.
#. Add-on summary, usually the user visible name of the addon.
#. Translators: Summary for this add-on
#. to be shown on installation and add-on information.
msgid "Add-on Updater"
msgstr "Actualizador de complementos"
#. Translators: This is the label for a checkbox in the
#. Add-on Updater settings panel.
msgid "Automatically check for add-on &updates"
msgstr "Buscar automicamente &actualizaciones de complementos"

So here was my idea.

Since we have the Instant Translate add-on, and we have Google Translate, and other translation services that are API driven:
What is stopping us from, during an add-on build, calling out to a translation service with the message IDs from a pot file, and using the result to construct multiple language po file results?

Wouldn't that give us immediate localization for any add-on?

Now, obviously those translations, being machine generated, would be significantly inferior to human derived translations, but not all of us can get translation teams dedicated to translating our add-ons.

I would expect some kind of translation, to be better than no translation at all.

But I only speak English, and as such have deficient knowledge. So am I wrong?

I suspect that I am missing a major factor in this, or it would have been done by someone, long before now.

Luke







Re: Proposal/research: compatibility mode for add-ons

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hi Alberto:

This PR contains the mentioned unit tests. The relationship with your
proposal may not be obvious, but an add-on or other kind of helpeer
maybe used to search common sentences used to import code in all
modules contained in a folder.
For example, some kind of json file maybe included in NVDA or in
anadd-on with deprecations or removed modules, and this maybe used by
third party application. I use just git grep for now, and the changes
for developers.
😄

In my PR for the cursorLocator add-on, unittests are used to import
the utils module contained in the add-on, and MagicMock class is used
to simulate the config module, since the add-on itself doesn't contain
it but it's used by utils, so, if MagicMoc is not used, tests fail.
Then, some tests cases are designed, for example, providing
preconditions like:
config.conf["cursorLocator"]["maxStartNotificationNumber"+ is 1. Then,
the utils.shouldReportStartOfLine(text) function will return True and
this is evaluated.
Just an example. See the tests folder on this PR for more info:

https://github.com/nvdaes/cursorLocator/pull/13



2022-05-08 15:05 GMT+02:00, Alberto Buffolino <a.buffolino@...>:

Noelia Ruiz, il 8/5/2022, ha scritto:
Now I'm working
including unit tests for an add-on (very simple tests and just for a
Python module recently included, not posted on GitHub for now), and
results are satisfactory.
Alberto:
Hi Noelia,
I don't practically nothing about unit test, that is, its powers and
extendibility. Hope to see something soon! :)
Anyway, about complexity of catching all cases, there obviously could be
various mechanisms included: if an add-on fails or will fail on absolute
imports (Python and NVDA core modules), for example, I think it may
safely disabled (and for this task AST static analysis seems to perform
quite well, if we can compare its results with a list of deprecated
modules and do not want to wait an exception in a potential dangerous
situation); if this stage passes, then other techniques are required...
About an add-on encapsulating all of this... I'll think, it's not the
solution, clearly, but could be feasible at least as helper tool.
Alberto





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