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Re: windows10 app essentials addon interfere with reaper

tech explorers <techexplorers2020@...>
 

hi Joseph
I am using the latest stable release of windows 10 app essentials.
and yes  I tried disabling windows 10 app essentials from the add ons manager then I can use reaper properly.
how do I get the  debug logs


On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 8:58 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Which version of Windows 10 App Essentials are you using? What happens if you restart with Windows 10 App Essentials disabled, or for that matter, all add-ons disabled? I need a debug log that will let me know that it is indeed my add-on that's causing issues (I don't use Reaper, that's one of the reasons for requesting a debug level log).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of tech explorers
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:59 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] windows10 app essentials addon interfere with reaper

hey all.
as I sayd in the subject,
wen I use reaper with the win10 apps addon enabled.
the reaper is not usable.
this is started happening after the last update of win10 apps.
I hope this problem should be fixed soon thanks varun.











Re: windows10 app essentials addon interfere with reaper

 

Hi,
Which version of Windows 10 App Essentials are you using? What happens if you restart with Windows 10 App Essentials disabled, or for that matter, all add-ons disabled? I need a debug log that will let me know that it is indeed my add-on that's causing issues (I don't use Reaper, that's one of the reasons for requesting a debug level log).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of tech explorers
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:59 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] windows10 app essentials addon interfere with reaper

hey all.
as I sayd in the subject,
wen I use reaper with the win10 apps addon enabled.
the reaper is not usable.
this is started happening after the last update of win10 apps.
I hope this problem should be fixed soon thanks varun.


Re: Quick Dictionary with automatic switching of synthesizers for selected languages #addonrelease

Oleksandr Gryshchenko
 

Hi friends,
I hope the problems with Google groups are already resolved.

I updated the add-on to version 2.1.

Changes in this version:
* separated add-on help page from ReadMe;
* added a menu item that invokes the add-on's own help page;
* added a line of code that disables the add-on in secure mode;
* added a dialog to edit the text before sending to remote service;
* Turkish translation added (thanks to Cagri Dogan);
* fixed bug reported by Paul.

Link to download:
https://github.com/grisov/quickDictionary/releases/download/v2.1/quickDictionary-2.1.nvda-addon

And please, if it possible, I would like the community to do an in-depth review of all my add-ons.

Greetings.
Oleksandr


windows10 app essentials addon interfere with reaper

tech explorers <techexplorers2020@...>
 

hey all.
as I sayd in the subject,
wen I use reaper with the win10 apps addon enabled.
the reaper is not usable.
this is started happening after the last update of win10 apps.
I hope this problem should be fixed soon
thanks varun.


readFeeds 10.0 is available on the website

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hello:

I will send this for translators in the next weeken. I have seen a
typo that should be fixed in the readme (even instead of event). I'll
fix it too.
Thanks so much to Reef (NV Access) for his work in the new add-on
system and for making this available on the website, at
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/readFeeds.en.html

Enjoy!


Re: Help with using an online API?

Noelia Ruiz
 

Great, thank you.

2020-12-16 5:43 GMT+01:00, Meisam Amini <meisamamini21@gmail.com>:

Thank you. That's very helpful.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 11:24 PM Noelia Ruiz <nrm1977@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello:

I can provide an example of readFeeds add-on, available at
https://github.com/nvdaes/readFeeds
import urllib.request

...

def refresh(self): # This function gets a document from an URL
userAgent = "UniversalFeedParser/3.3 +
http://feedparser.org/" # This
is the user agent, provided to improve the compatibility of feeds
headers = {'User-Agent': userAgent}
req = urllib.request.Request(self._url, None, headers) #
This is the
request of the document
response = urllib.request.urlopen(req) # Response when
opening the address
try:
self._document = ElementTree.parse(response) #
this is used for xml
documents, you will use json, but just as an example
except Exception as e:
raise e

Here is documentation for urllib.request

https://docs.python.org/3/library/urllib.request.html

Hope this helps.

2020-12-15 3:13 GMT+01:00, Meisam Amini <meisamamini21@gmail.com>:
Hello everyone.

I'm a beginner, so sorry for the ignorant question.

I'm trying to use an online api in a global plugin. It's a simple one,
just a get request and the response is a JSON object that contains all
the necessary info.

I know how to use Requests module, so tried to use it. But after
copying its many dependencies finally I encountered a problem with
http.cookies module not being there.

Nothing I did worked. I figured up that NVDA doesn't have the
cookies.py module in the http package, so I added the path to the Lib
folder of my Python installation to the beginning of sys.path so NVDA
could get the cookies module from there, but no luck.

Then tried to use urllib.request, but it gives me 403 http error for
that URL. Don't know why, it opens just fine in my browser and with
requests module.

I appreciate if someone helps me to either solve the problem with
requests module or do the job using another module.

Thanks in advance.














Re: Help with using an online API?

Meisam Amini <meisamamini21@...>
 

Thank you. That's very helpful.


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 11:24 PM Noelia Ruiz <nrm1977@...> wrote:
Hello:

I can provide an example of readFeeds add-on, available at
https://github.com/nvdaes/readFeeds
import urllib.request

...

def refresh(self): # This function gets a document from an URL
                userAgent = "UniversalFeedParser/3.3 +http://feedparser.org/" # This
is the user agent, provided to improve the compatibility of feeds
                headers = {'User-Agent': userAgent}
                req = urllib.request.Request(self._url, None, headers) # This is the
request of the document
                response = urllib.request.urlopen(req) # Response when opening the address
                try:
                        self._document = ElementTree.parse(response) # this is used for xml
documents, you will use json, but just as an example
                except Exception as e:
                        raise e

Here is documentation for urllib.request

https://docs.python.org/3/library/urllib.request.html

Hope this helps.

2020-12-15 3:13 GMT+01:00, Meisam Amini <meisamamini21@...>:
> Hello everyone.
>
> I'm a beginner, so sorry for the ignorant question.
>
> I'm trying to use an online api in a global plugin. It's a simple one,
> just a get request and the response is a JSON object that contains all
> the necessary info.
>
> I know how to use Requests module, so tried to use it. But after
> copying its many dependencies finally I encountered a problem with
> http.cookies module not being there.
>
> Nothing I did worked. I figured up that NVDA doesn't have the
> cookies.py module in the http package, so I added the path to the Lib
> folder of my Python installation to the beginning of sys.path so NVDA
> could get the cookies module from there, but no luck.
>
> Then tried to use urllib.request, but it gives me 403 http error for
> that URL. Don't know why, it opens just fine in my browser and with
> requests module.
>
> I appreciate if someone helps me to either solve the problem with
> requests module or do the job using another module.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>






Sorry, a test email

Manolo
 


Follow-up notice on Gmail address bouncing issue: resolution in progress, things could get back to normal in a few hours or so #AdminNotice

 

Hello all,

Gmail address bouncing issue is being resolved. First, Google notes that the Gmail issue from earlier today was resolved. Next, Groups.IO is manually unbouncing Gmail address users, so there’s really no need to send bounce probes. However, to help other Groups.IO forums, I advise not sending anything to the add-ons list until at least 12:00 UTC (4 AM Pacific).

Thank you for your cooperation.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: New WordNav add-on - review requested

Cyrille
 

Hi Tony

 

Thanks for the CSS fix.

 

Regarding the panel layout, I have not so much time to test and make a PR.

A quick idea however: It seems that edit fields are not added to sHelper. That may explain why they are not positioned correctly.

Probably you should sHelper.addLabeledControl also for edit fields to create these options correctly under the combo-box.

I may have a look on the result If you try these changes.

 

Cheers,

 

Cyrille

 

 

De : nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> De la part de Tony Malykh
Envoyé : mardi 15 décembre 2020 18:55
À : nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

 

Cyrille
> all the edit field are incorrectly located
Not much I can do - as I cannot see the screen. I copied settings dialog from NVDA settings, so I am really not sure why this would be happening. Happy to accept pull requests if anyone knows how to fix this.
> The assumption ‌that the paths are mainly in English is wrong
I never said that paths are in English. I meant that camel case identifier are mostly in English.
> You have an unexpected file
Fixed - will be removed in the first release. That's a weird Dropbox synchronization bug.
> Could you please use the CSS from the last add-on template?
Done.

Thanks!

Tony

On 12/15/2020 2:17 AM, Cyrille via groups.io wrote:

Some additional comments:
* You have an unexpected file left in the bundle of the add-on: manifest (Конфликтующая копия с компьютера Tony’s MacBook Air 2019-12-08).ini
* Could you please use the CSS from the last add-on template? This CSS is optimized for visually impaired people using color inversion. You may also update your other add-ons with this CSS when making new releases. Thanks.

Cheers,

Cyrille

 

De : "Cyrille via groups.io"
A : nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Envoyé: mardi 15 Décembre 2020 10:44
Objet : Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested
 

Hello

This add-on is a good idea. Thanks Tony.

Here are some feedback on the add-on and the previously written messages:
* In the setting panel, visually, all the edit field are incorrectly located and overlap the first checkbox instead of being located below the "Right Control+Windows behavior:" item.
* The assumption ‌that the paths are mainly in English is wrong. On a computer, it is common to have some files or folders with names in the local language.

Cheers,

Cyrille

 

De : "Tony Malykh"
A : nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Envoyé: mardi 15 Décembre 2020 06:18
Objet : Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested
 

One more thing to add: I see WordNav is a tool primarily for software
developers. It improves word navigation in cases when you need to deal
with camelCaseIdentifiers and underscore_separated_identifiers, and also
with long file paths. All of which tend to be exclusively in English.

On 12/14/2020 7:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> One major thing to resolve: what would happen if a user defines multiple virtual desktops on Windows 10 and wish to move amongst them quickly without opening Task View? Another thing to look into is the fact that certain languages do not have definable "word boundary".
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:05 PM
> To: nvda-addons
> Subject: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested
>
> Hello,
> I present my new add-on WordNav and I would like to have it reviewed.
> WordNav improves word navigation commands (Control+Left/Right arrows) in NVDA. It works in both editables and browse mode. It provides 4 different version of word navigation commands, depending on how do we define a word, and allows them all to be assigned to either
> control+arrows or control+windows+arrows commands. Those different word
> deinitions are:
> • Left Control+Arrows: Notepad++ definition, that treats alphanumeric characters as words, and adjacent punctuation marks are also treated as words. This should be the most convenient word definition for the majority of users.
> • RightControl+Arrows: Fine word definition splits camelCaseIdentifiers and underscore_separated_identifiers into separate parts, thus allowing the cursor to go into long identifiers.
> • LeftControl+Windows+Arros: Bulky word definition treats almost all punctuation symbols adjacent to text as part of a single word, therefore it would treat paths like C:\directory\subdirectory\file.txt as a single word.
> • RightControl+Windows+Arros: Multiword definition, that groups several words together. The amount of words is configurable.
> Another issue that WordNav is trying to fix is inconsistency between NVDA word definition and word definition in applications. There have been multiple issues of that nature, when the program moves cursor according to one definition, and NVDA assumes another, and that leads to either words being pronounced twice, or some words being skipped. Since wordNav doesn't send Control+Arrows gesture to applications, but it instead parses the whole line itself, it serves as a workaround for this type of issues.
>
> Download:
> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon
> Website:
> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/
>
> Best regards
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




 


Clock-20.12-dev #addontesting

Abdel
 

Hi,

Clock 20.12-dev has just been released.

This version includes the following change:

  • Fixed elapsed and remaining time reading for alarm and stopwatch.


This bug was reported by Mohammadreza and has just been fixed.

Download link:


https://github.com/hkatic/clock/releases/download/v20.12-dev/clock-20.12-dev.nvda-addon

I'll send a PR on github/nvaccess/addonfiles

Thanks for your feedback.

Kind regards,
Abdel.


Re: Help with using an online API?

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hello:

I can provide an example of readFeeds add-on, available at
https://github.com/nvdaes/readFeeds
import urllib.request

...

def refresh(self): # This function gets a document from an URL
userAgent = "UniversalFeedParser/3.3 +http://feedparser.org/" # This
is the user agent, provided to improve the compatibility of feeds
headers = {'User-Agent': userAgent}
req = urllib.request.Request(self._url, None, headers) # This is the
request of the document
response = urllib.request.urlopen(req) # Response when opening the address
try:
self._document = ElementTree.parse(response) # this is used for xml
documents, you will use json, but just as an example
except Exception as e:
raise e

Here is documentation for urllib.request

https://docs.python.org/3/library/urllib.request.html

Hope this helps.

2020-12-15 3:13 GMT+01:00, Meisam Amini <meisamamini21@gmail.com>:

Hello everyone.

I'm a beginner, so sorry for the ignorant question.

I'm trying to use an online api in a global plugin. It's a simple one,
just a get request and the response is a JSON object that contains all
the necessary info.

I know how to use Requests module, so tried to use it. But after
copying its many dependencies finally I encountered a problem with
http.cookies module not being there.

Nothing I did worked. I figured up that NVDA doesn't have the
cookies.py module in the http package, so I added the path to the Lib
folder of my Python installation to the beginning of sys.path so NVDA
could get the cookies module from there, but no luck.

Then tried to use urllib.request, but it gives me 403 http error for
that URL. Don't know why, it opens just fine in my browser and with
requests module.

I appreciate if someone helps me to either solve the problem with
requests module or do the job using another module.

Thanks in advance.






Re: test

umut korkmaz
 

I found it nice, dude.

It's nice to be in the group.

Cheers.

Umut KORKMAZ

 

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi

 

Kimden: Sean
Gönderilme: 15 Aralık 2020 Salı 21:23
Kime: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Konu: Re: [nvda-addons] test

 

successfully dude. 

wercome. 



umut korkmaz <umutkork@...> şunları yazdı (15 Ara 2020 20:50):



This is a test Mail.

 

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi

 

 


Re: test

Sean <s.tolstoyevski@...>
 

successfully dude. 
wercome. 

umut korkmaz <umutkork@...> şunları yazdı (15 Ara 2020 20:50):



This is a test Mail.

 

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi

 


Re: New WordNav add-on - review requested

Rowen Cary
 

Hi,

This is a great add-on, even in the Chinese environment it is still very useful.
Can you add language files to make the add-on translatable?


Re: New WordNav add-on - review requested

Tony Malykh
 

Sam,

In my experience if the feature is unassigned, then nobody will know about it. I prefer to make it assign and teach users how to disable it.
Word selection would be nice to have, but as I mentioned in the readmreadme, the implementation is quite a bit more complicated. In my own experience I use word selection much less, so the return on ivestment is going to be pretty low. Having said this, I still believe it is a good feature to have, and maybe one day  I'll find enough time to implement it.

Regards

Tony


On 12/15/2020 5:21 AM, Samuel Kacer wrote:
Hi Tony,

another great idea for making lives of blind developers such as myself easier. This is particularly great for code editors like VS code, where word navigation is messy. I have some thoughts about the default configuration and about the behavior as well:

- I think the ctrl + windows +arrows should be unassigned by default, since I would imagine many people like to use virtual desktops and at first I was puzzled why switching between them was funny
- I think if this addon changes behavior for word navigation, it should also change behavior for word selection (i.e. using ctrl + shift + left/right arrow)
- namely it is confusing/frustrating that ctrl + right arrow moves caret forward by x amount, but ctrl + shift + right arrow selects by y amount
- would it be possible to have an app inclusion list instead of an app exclusion list? since I would only want to use this for some code editors, but I don't like making seperate profiles because they get out of sync over time

Kind Regards,
Sam

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 4:04 AM Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...> wrote:
Hello,
I present my new add-on WordNav and I would like to have it reviewed.
WordNav improves word navigation commands (Control+Left/Right arrows) in
NVDA. It works in both editables and browse mode. It provides 4
different version of word navigation commands, depending on how do we
define a word, and allows them all to be assigned to either
control+arrows or control+windows+arrows commands. Those different word
deinitions  are:
• Left Control+Arrows: Notepad++ definition, that treats alphanumeric
characters as words, and adjacent punctuation marks are also treated as
words. This should be the most convenient word definition for the
majority of users.
• RightControl+Arrows: Fine word definition splits camelCaseIdentifiers
and underscore_separated_identifiers into separate parts, thus allowing
the cursor to go into long identifiers.
• LeftControl+Windows+Arros: Bulky word definition treats almost all
punctuation symbols adjacent to text as part of a single word, therefore
it would treat paths like C:\directory\subdirectory\file.txt as a single
word.
• RightControl+Windows+Arros: Multiword definition, that groups several
words together. The amount of words is configurable.
Another issue that WordNav is trying to fix is inconsistency between
NVDA word definition and word definition in applications. There have
been multiple issues of that nature, when the program moves cursor
according to one definition, and NVDA assumes another, and that leads to
either words being pronounced twice, or some words being skipped. Since
wordNav doesn't send Control+Arrows gesture to applications, but it
instead parses the whole line itself, it serves as a workaround for this
type of issues.

Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon
Website:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

Best regards
Tony







Re: New WordNav add-on - review requested

 

Hi,
Got it. I don't know when WordNav will appear on community add-ons website as the underlying system is going through significant redesign at the moment, but I will make sure that WordNav (and Quick Dictionary) is added to the website by New Year's Day or shortly after.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:53 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for review.

1. I fixed UI message that said SentenceNav instead of WordNav

2. Logging path doesn't matter since debug is set to False. I would like to leave this clause primarily for myself, as it happens, in the future I often need to debug things when users report problems with my add-ons, and in this case I can just simply set debug=True. In the past I had to copy logging functions every time I had to debug something and it was pretty annoying, so at some point I decided to just leave them in place, although they are disabled for all users. But this would indeed only work on my computer. Since I am the only maintainer of my add-ons, this shouldn't be a problem to anyone.
3. Fixed readme as per your suggestion.
Best
--Tony

On 12/14/2020 9:50 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Basic review results;
* License and copyright: pass
* Documentation: pass
* User experience: pass (with comments)
* Security: pass(with comments)

Comments:
* I think it would be great to look at user interface messages as at least one message says "SentenceNav".
* When logging information, can you guarantee that the Dropbox path does exist on a user's system?
* In the readme, I think it would be helpful to point out that you should turn off Control+Windows+arrow keys if you are planning to use virtual desktops on Windows 10.

Based on what we have, if UI messages can be improved, it should be good to go (also keep the original concerns folks raised, too). Further testing and comments from others are appreciated.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
<nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:23 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

Hi,
Regarding the second item: one more thing to consider is that some keyboard layouts do NOT let you use right Control+arrows for things. This is the case in Korean IME where right Control key is used to convert Korean text (Hangul) into Hanja (Chinese character representation). Of course one can unassign this gesture from the add-on side (via input gestures dialog), but consider that not all users who will meet this add-on are familiar with this step.
Nevertheless, I will submit a basic review.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
<nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:16 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

> what would happen if a user defines multiple virtual desktops on Windows 10 and wish to move amongst them quickly without opening Task View?

Then that user can leave Control+Windows+Arrows unassigned.


> Another thing to look into is the fact that certain languages do
not have definable "word boundary

Then no need to use WordNav.. Or optionally there is a way to leave for example native behavior for Left Control+Arrows, and redefine Right Control + arrows if such user wants to use only some features of WordNav.

On 12/14/2020 7:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
One major thing to resolve: what would happen if a user defines multiple virtual desktops on Windows 10 and wish to move amongst them quickly without opening Task View? Another thing to look into is the fact that certain languages do not have definable "word boundary".
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
<nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:05 PM
To: nvda-addons <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

Hello,
I present my new add-on WordNav and I would like to have it reviewed.
WordNav improves word navigation commands (Control+Left/Right arrows)
in NVDA. It works in both editables and browse mode. It provides 4
different version of word navigation commands, depending on how do we
define a word, and allows them all to be assigned to either
control+arrows or control+windows+arrows commands. Those different
control+word
deinitions are:
• Left Control+Arrows: Notepad++ definition, that treats alphanumeric characters as words, and adjacent punctuation marks are also treated as words. This should be the most convenient word definition for the majority of users.
• RightControl+Arrows: Fine word definition splits camelCaseIdentifiers and underscore_separated_identifiers into separate parts, thus allowing the cursor to go into long identifiers.
• LeftControl+Windows+Arros: Bulky word definition treats almost all punctuation symbols adjacent to text as part of a single word, therefore it would treat paths like C:\directory\subdirectory\file.txt as a single word.
• RightControl+Windows+Arros: Multiword definition, that groups several words together. The amount of words is configurable.
Another issue that WordNav is trying to fix is inconsistency between NVDA word definition and word definition in applications. There have been multiple issues of that nature, when the program moves cursor according to one definition, and NVDA assumes another, and that leads to either words being pronounced twice, or some words being skipped. Since wordNav doesn't send Control+Arrows gesture to applications, but it instead parses the whole line itself, it serves as a workaround for this type of issues.

Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/word
N
av.nvda-addon
Website:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

Best regards
Tony























Re: New WordNav add-on - review requested

Tony Malykh
 

Cyrille
> all the edit field are incorrectly located
Not much I can do - as I cannot see the screen. I copied settings dialog from NVDA settings, so I am really not sure why this would be happening. Happy to accept pull requests if anyone knows how to fix this.
> The assumption ‌that the paths are mainly in English is wrong
I never said that paths are in English. I meant that camel case identifier are mostly in English.
> You have an unexpected file
Fixed - will be removed in the first release. That's a weird Dropbox synchronization bug.
> Could you please use the CSS from the last add-on template?
Done.

Thanks!

Tony

On 12/15/2020 2:17 AM, Cyrille via groups.io wrote:
Some additional comments:
* You have an unexpected file left in the bundle of the add-on: manifest (Конфликтующая копия с компьютера Tony’s MacBook Air 2019-12-08).ini
* Could you please use the CSS from the last add-on template? This CSS is optimized for visually impaired people using color inversion. You may also update your other add-ons with this CSS when making new releases. Thanks.

Cheers,

Cyrille
 
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Objet : Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested
 
Hello

This add-on is a good idea. Thanks Tony.

Here are some feedback on the add-on and the previously written messages:
* In the setting panel, visually, all the edit field are incorrectly located and overlap the first checkbox instead of being located below the "Right Control+Windows behavior:" item.
* The assumption ‌that the paths are mainly in English is wrong. On a computer, it is common to have some files or folders with names in the local language.

Cheers,

Cyrille
 
De : "Tony Malykh"
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Envoyé: mardi 15 Décembre 2020 06:18
Objet : Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested
 
One more thing to add: I see WordNav is a tool primarily for software
developers. It improves word navigation in cases when you need to deal
with camelCaseIdentifiers and underscore_separated_identifiers, and also
with long file paths. All of which tend to be exclusively in English.

On 12/14/2020 7:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> One major thing to resolve: what would happen if a user defines multiple virtual desktops on Windows 10 and wish to move amongst them quickly without opening Task View? Another thing to look into is the fact that certain languages do not have definable "word boundary".
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:05 PM
> To: nvda-addons
> Subject: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested
>
> Hello,
> I present my new add-on WordNav and I would like to have it reviewed.
> WordNav improves word navigation commands (Control+Left/Right arrows) in NVDA. It works in both editables and browse mode. It provides 4 different version of word navigation commands, depending on how do we define a word, and allows them all to be assigned to either
> control+arrows or control+windows+arrows commands. Those different word
> deinitions are:
> • Left Control+Arrows: Notepad++ definition, that treats alphanumeric characters as words, and adjacent punctuation marks are also treated as words. This should be the most convenient word definition for the majority of users.
> • RightControl+Arrows: Fine word definition splits camelCaseIdentifiers and underscore_separated_identifiers into separate parts, thus allowing the cursor to go into long identifiers.
> • LeftControl+Windows+Arros: Bulky word definition treats almost all punctuation symbols adjacent to text as part of a single word, therefore it would treat paths like C:\directory\subdirectory\file.txt as a single word.
> • RightControl+Windows+Arros: Multiword definition, that groups several words together. The amount of words is configurable.
> Another issue that WordNav is trying to fix is inconsistency between NVDA word definition and word definition in applications. There have been multiple issues of that nature, when the program moves cursor according to one definition, and NVDA assumes another, and that leads to either words being pronounced twice, or some words being skipped. Since wordNav doesn't send Control+Arrows gesture to applications, but it instead parses the whole line itself, it serves as a workaround for this type of issues.
>
> Download:
> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordNav.nvda-addon
> Website:
> https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/
>
> Best regards
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




 


Re: New WordNav add-on - review requested

Tony Malykh
 

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for review.

1. I fixed UI message that said SentenceNav instead of WordNav

2. Logging path doesn't matter since debug is set to False. I would like to leave this clause primarily for myself, as it happens, in the future I often need to debug things when users report problems with my add-ons, and in this case I can just simply set debug=True. In the past I had to copy logging functions every time I had to debug something and it was pretty annoying, so at some point I decided to just leave them in place, although they are disabled for all users.  But this would indeed only work on my computer. Since I am the only maintainer of my add-ons, this shouldn't be a problem to anyone.
3. Fixed readme as per your suggestion.
Best
--Tony

On 12/14/2020 9:50 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Basic review results;
* License and copyright: pass
* Documentation: pass
* User experience: pass (with comments)
* Security: pass(with comments)

Comments:
* I think it would be great to look at user interface messages as at least one message says "SentenceNav".
* When logging information, can you guarantee that the Dropbox path does exist on a user's system?
* In the readme, I think it would be helpful to point out that you should turn off Control+Windows+arrow keys if you are planning to use virtual desktops on Windows 10.

Based on what we have, if UI messages can be improved, it should be good to go (also keep the original concerns folks raised, too). Further testing and comments from others are appreciated.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:23 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

Hi,
Regarding the second item: one more thing to consider is that some keyboard layouts do NOT let you use right Control+arrows for things. This is the case in Korean IME where right Control key is used to convert Korean text (Hangul) into Hanja (Chinese character representation). Of course one can unassign this gesture from the add-on side (via input gestures dialog), but consider that not all users who will meet this add-on are familiar with this step.
Nevertheless, I will submit a basic review.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:16 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

> what would happen if a user defines multiple virtual desktops on Windows 10 and wish to move amongst them quickly without opening Task View?

Then that user can leave Control+Windows+Arrows unassigned.


> Another thing to look into is the fact that certain languages do not have definable "word boundary

Then no need to use WordNav.. Or optionally there is a way to leave for example native behavior for Left Control+Arrows, and redefine Right Control + arrows if such user wants to use only some features of WordNav.

On 12/14/2020 7:15 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
One major thing to resolve: what would happen if a user defines multiple virtual desktops on Windows 10 and wish to move amongst them quickly without opening Task View? Another thing to look into is the fact that certain languages do not have definable "word boundary".
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
<nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 7:05 PM
To: nvda-addons <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda-addons] New WordNav add-on - review requested

Hello,
I present my new add-on WordNav and I would like to have it reviewed.
WordNav improves word navigation commands (Control+Left/Right arrows)
in NVDA. It works in both editables and browse mode. It provides 4
different version of word navigation commands, depending on how do we
define a word, and allows them all to be assigned to either
control+arrows or control+windows+arrows commands. Those different
control+word
deinitions are:
• Left Control+Arrows: Notepad++ definition, that treats alphanumeric characters as words, and adjacent punctuation marks are also treated as words. This should be the most convenient word definition for the majority of users.
• RightControl+Arrows: Fine word definition splits camelCaseIdentifiers and underscore_separated_identifiers into separate parts, thus allowing the cursor to go into long identifiers.
• LeftControl+Windows+Arros: Bulky word definition treats almost all punctuation symbols adjacent to text as part of a single word, therefore it would treat paths like C:\directory\subdirectory\file.txt as a single word.
• RightControl+Windows+Arros: Multiword definition, that groups several words together. The amount of words is configurable.
Another issue that WordNav is trying to fix is inconsistency between NVDA word definition and word definition in applications. There have been multiple issues of that nature, when the program moves cursor according to one definition, and NVDA assumes another, and that leads to either words being pronounced twice, or some words being skipped. Since wordNav doesn't send Control+Arrows gesture to applications, but it instead parses the whole line itself, it serves as a workaround for this type of issues.

Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/latest/download/wordN
av.nvda-addon
Website:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

Best regards
Tony






















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