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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] An error with objpad addon


Hi,
Some can sort of infer what you've meant to type. But again, unless a
machine can be programmed to anticipate millions of decisions, humans are
better at solving ambiguities. In case of Python, Guido van Rossum and many
others pointed out that the reason for dropping old syntax in Python 3 was
to keep up with changing landscape of computing, and one way was
intentionally making the language partially backwards incompatible. NV
Access took on a similar stance with NVDA API compatibility in 2019, which
was fully implemented around this time last year (that's why I stated at
least one of my add-ons will be affected by compatibility issues, and like
last time, I will document what add-on authors should do in coming weeks).
Cheers,
Joseph

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Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] An error with objpad addon

I think a lot of the problem is that syntax code checkers cannot follow all
the logic and hence can only point at the point that it failed on, not the
actual cause due to old syntax that is still legal but gives different
results to the previous incarnation of the language.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] An error with objpad addon


Hi,
This approach also has costs: making it harder to train new Python
programmers and add features that can react to ever-changing nature of
information technology, especially now that we are surfing machine learning
waves on top of a data ocean.
Cheers,
Joseph

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And of course 3D sound of course but for other reasons.
No criticism here, but the writers of Python really could have made the old
syntax still work and invented new syntax for the new features that did not
impact it, and be treated mutually exclusively by the checker before
compilation. This sort of thing was being done in home computers in the 80s,
so why not now?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda-addons] An error with objpad addon


Hi,
Although I no longer maintain this add-on, I'm willing to do something about
it once NVDA 2021.1 beta 1 is released as this error has to do with speech
reason attribute removal (which may affect several add-ons).
Speaking of add-on maintenance, ObjPad isn't the only add-on that will stop
working in 2021.1 - others include Golden Cursor and SystrayList. I was
hoping that we can find maintainers for these, but no word on it for the
last twelve months.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jiri Holzinger
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 5:59 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] An error with objpad addon

Hello, in recent snapshots there is an error with objpad addon, i can not
use scan mode, here is the log.
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (14:53:04.955) - MainThread
(1560):
error executing script: <bound method GlobalPlugin.script_upArrow of
<globalPlugins.objPad.GlobalPlugin object at 0x07910BD0>> with gesture
'šipka nahoru'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 208, in executeScript
File "C:\alpha\userConfig\addons\objPad\globalPlugins\objPad.py",
line 183, in script_upArrow
speech.speakObject(newObject,reason=controlTypes.REASON_FOCUS)
AttributeError: module 'controlTypes' has no attribute 'REASON_FOCUS'
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (14:53:05.435) - MainThread
(1560):
error executing script: <bound method GlobalPlugin.script_downArrow of
<globalPlugins.objPad.GlobalPlugin object at 0x07910BD0>> with gesture
'šipka dolů'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 208, in executeScript
File "C:\alpha\userConfig\addons\objPad\globalPlugins\objPad.py",
line 149, in script_downArrow
speech.speakObject(newObject,reason=controlTypes.REASON_FOCUS)
AttributeError: module 'controlTypes' has no attribute 'REASON_FOCUS'
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (14:53:05.659) - MainThread
(1560):
error executing script: <bound method GlobalPlugin.script_downArrow of
<globalPlugins.objPad.GlobalPlugin object at 0x07910BD0>> with gesture
'šipka dolů'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 208, in executeScript
File "C:\alpha\userConfig\addons\objPad\globalPlugins\objPad.py",
line 149, in script_downArrow
speech.speakObject(newObject,reason=controlTypes.REASON_FOCUS)
AttributeError: module 'controlTypes' has no attribute 'REASON_FOCUS'
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (14:53:07.574) - MainThread
(1560):
error executing script: <bound method GlobalPlugin.script_upArrow of
<globalPlugins.objPad.GlobalPlugin object at 0x07910BD0>> with gesture
'šipka nahoru'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 208, in executeScript
File "C:\alpha\userConfig\addons\objPad\globalPlugins\objPad.py",
line 183, in script_upArrow
speech.speakObject(newObject,reason=controlTypes.REASON_FOCUS)
AttributeError: module 'controlTypes' has no attribute 'REASON_FOCUS'